Well assuming that the deletion occurred recently I would go look in the 
deleted items folder and see if you have an object by that name in there.  You 
can then look at the replication metadata and see where the delete originated.  
From that see if they are all coming from one DC or if there are patterns.  If 
you have auditing turned up you could see who/what is deleting them.

Thanks,

-Steve

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Computer accounts getting deleted by unknown process

What's unique about the domain this is happening to? That strikes me as odd 
that it's occurring in one domain, but not all.

I have yet to see accounts get deleted in Active Directory (any version) 
without a process that removes them.  This could be a new experience for me, 
but I'm skeptical that a process doesn't exist that is removing accounts or 
preventing the replication (you did say they checked, but like I said, I'm 
skeptical of any process that picks on computer account security principals but 
leaves user security principals alone.)

I have seen strange issues occur when anti virus apps that run on the domain 
controllers were thought to have been configured properly but weren't. I've 
seen instances where similar symptoms were presented but in the end we found 
out that a process was running that caused this issue. I've seen issues of DC 
promotions and DNS that "ate" the DNS zones, but that's not what you describe.

So I'm interested to know what's unique about the domain it occurs in.  I'm 
interested to know why it doesn't occur in the other domains?

SP1 is highly recommended of course - lots of bug fixes and additional security 
changes.

I'm not familiar with the client side apps you mention, but if the environment 
I work in currently is any indication old computer accounts don't become 
suicidal without provocation.  Shame too....


On 1/16/07, Rich Milburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
I've found a little bit of info on this googling, and the results I'm
finding seem to be related to replication problems, lack of SP1, or
other issues with DCs that need to be reinstalled (reason not
identified).  What's happening is that computer accounts are getting
deleted - most of them are ones that can't update their passwords
because they have been turned off, or in the case of a group of users,
their computers have Deep Freeze running on them, and those computers
update their passwords but apparently the computers reset when they are
rebooted so the password is reset to the old one too.  But the issues
are not isolated to these accounts.

We do not have an automated process set up to delete these accounts.

This is Server 2003, non-SP1 (that's scheduled for this Friday).  There
are no discovered replication errors, they have checked for those.  We
only have 6 DCs, two each for a root and two child domains, and this is
happening in one of the child domains.

Here is an example event that we are getting.  If anyone has seen this
before or has any ideas, we'll be most appreciative.

Event Type:       Error
Event Source:    NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID:           5723
Date:                1/16/2007
Time:                9:21:28 AM
User:                N/A
Computer:         CORPDC2
Description:
The session setup from computer 'ACCT-95XDP11' failed because the
security database does not contain a trust account 'ACCT-95XDP11$'
referenced by the specified computer.

USER ACTION
If this is the first occurrence of this event for the specified computer
and account, this may be a transient issue that doesn't require any
action at this time. Otherwise, the following steps may be taken to
resolve this problem:

If 'ACCT-95XDP11$' is a legitimate machine account for the computer
'ACCT-95XDP11', then 'ACCT-95XDP11' should be rejoined to the domain.

If 'ACCT-95XDP11$' is a legitimate interdomain trust account, then the
trust should be recreated.

Otherwise, assuming that 'ACCT-95XDP11$' is not a legitimate account,
the following action should be taken on 'ACCT-95XDP11':

If 'ACCT-95XDP11' is a Domain Controller, then the trust associated with
'ACCT-95XDP11$' should be deleted.

If 'ACCT-95XDP11' is not a Domain Controller, it should be disjoined
from the domain.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
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Rich Milburn
MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development
Applebee's International, Inc.
4551 W. 107th St
Overland Park, KS 66207
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