..on Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:27:39PM +0200, Damian Stewart wrote:
> i remember some discussions that happened hear a couple of years back along 
> the lines of 'does New Zealand need a medialab?' well, i don't know about a 
> /media/lab, since 'media' is a bit of a loaded word and corries with it a 
> lot of the kind of pretentious nonsense that can have a whole lot of money 
> spent on flash without very much content (eg the Film Archive 'Mediaplex' 
> in Wellington).
> 
> but, based on what i've seen in my travels, some of the most interesting 
> creative stuff seems to be happening in and around /hack/lab spaces: the 
> kind of spaces which put together, in one place, open-source enthusiasts 
> who want to spread the word, and artists who are interested in working with 
> new technology and want access to equipment, workshop space, or just a 
> social space to hang out with other likeminded people.
> 
> i just went this morning to visit the Metalab in Vienna (http://metalab.at) 
> and am inspired. they have a very small space - 200 square metres - and in 
> it manage to pack the following:
> 
> . main room with couches, chairs, tables and cheap roll-down projection 
> screens for presentations, meetings, or just hanging out
> . library/meeting room with books, tables, a more quiet/intimate 
> workshop/work space.
> . tiny sound studio with some basic synth gear (lent from one of the 
> members, who occasionally takes it back to use at his house)
> . kitchen with cooking equipment (to facilitate social interaction), 
> honesty-box fridge with beer and energy drinks (Club Mate of course)
> . the 'whateverlab', with a bunch of electronics gear, electronics books, 
> two kitset 3d printers (offspring of the RepRap), a 3-axis CNC lathe, and a 
> laser cutter.
> . a darkroom/chemistry experiment lab
> . blinkenlichts of some kind in every room
> 
> membership is 20$/month but you can go in and hang out and use the 
> equipment without membership; it's a lot smaller, friendlier, and more 
> practical/workshop-feeling than CBase in Berlin (if anyone else has been 
> there). it's funded by the City of Vienna and some commercial sponsors, and 
> seems to have been initially set up as an 'innovation incubator' kind of 
> project.
> 
> 
> so, in my mind, the best, cheapest single thing they could do is part-fund 
> the formation of a hack-space or several hack-spaces, strategically located 
> in major cities. in Wellington, a small space (Happy-sized) somewhere in 
> the not-yet-gentrified bits around upper cuba or tory st, or in newtown. in 
> Auckland, divert some of the funding from the absurdly enormous Galatos 
> place into a smaller, more realistic sized space.
> 
> this could be funded all sorts of ways, in Wellington at least. if only the 
> City Council still owned Citylink, that would take care of some things. and 
> back in the day i'm sure paradise.net would have been interested. the 
> Wellington Linux Users Group might like to play. certain people associated 
> with 127 Abel Smith would be interested i'm sure. on the open source side, 
> Catalyst IT might be interested; from the graphics programming/hacking 
> side, Sidhe or Wandering Monster might like to play too.

I reckon this is also a good basis for a proposal. Good words Dames. 

More often than not it's the medialabs that help make media-artists sing. I've
especially seen this again and again with the Medialab Prado in Madrid, who've
I've worked as teacher and participant. You've seen it first hand too Damian,
being a valued collaborator and artist at the Medialab Madrid on more than one
occassion.

There's an excess of technical/creative talent in NZ. Recycle! 

A hacklab with: 

        - coffee machine
        - hard and soft knowledge archive (leverage FLOSSManuals)
        - strict open-source distribution and development models
        - working area with lockers
        - free code repositories for remote collaborations
        - Friday arvo "I'll tell you how I made this project" talks with 
          a beer and concert chaser

.. would be a great contribution. 

Take 'Grow Your Own MediaLab' as a good model for aquiring a basic inventory vis
a vis Sheffield's Access Space; ie engineer a little guilt with a corporation
like BNZ, convincing them to redirect the mandatory obsolescing of 20 PCs and
give them a sponsor badge on your web site. 

Here's a template:

        http://www.access-space.org/?c=recycling        

This is something I'd be tempted to sink my teeth into one day.

>From what I see NZ seems to have overlooked this opportunity.. Rather, it seems
a culture of individualism in art and curatorial interest is predominant, even
at the artist-run-space level.

Chairs,

-- 
Julian Oliver
home: New Zealand
based: Berlin, Germany 
currently: Berlin, Germany 
about: http://julianoliver.com

> 
> Douglas Bagnall wrote:
> > So this one is really boring.  I mean, "Creative New Zealand Strategic
> > Plan" -- any one of these words would send you to sleep by itself.  I
> > won't be surprised if no-one answers.  Here's the link
> > 
> > http://www.creativenz.govt.nz/WhatWeDo/StrategicPlan/StrategicPlanPublicConsultation/tabid/4910/language/en-NZ/Default.aspx
> > 
> > but don't look.  It's boring.  It is better that we have an uninformed
> > and interesting debate.  Supposing we did submit something, what should
> > we say?
> > 
> > The obvious and expected tactic would be to notify them of our
> > unrecognised brilliance and diversity, of the exceptional art
> > experiences that we offer New Zealand and International Audiences, of
> > the warm glow they will feel from seeing our well-funded, important,
> > edgy work rise up on the world stage and represent the wise, culturally
> > aware, courageous CNZ.  But we will be cunning, and carefully frame it
> > in such a way that we don't look like greedy sycophants.  We don't like
> > money, but we will accept it for the good of the nation.  We will also
> > not mention that they are funding our rivals to make crap, nor that they
> > are a bunch of conservative retards, nor anything else at all that might
> > sound disparaging of bureaucrats or strategic plans.
> > 
> > That would be expected, and it would probably be wise.  Perhaps
> > accurate.  But it also sets up the temptation to do the opposite, to
> > scream and yell, and let them know that they have no idea about
> > anything.  They are at best irrelevant, we'd say. They should disband
> > and give the money back to the paupers who bought lotto tickets.
> > 
> > Then, of course, there's an expanse of middle ground, where we outline
> > the areas about which they have no clue, and try to tell them how they
> > could do better.  Most likely they would like to.  Which brings us back
> > to: what should they do, actually?
> > 
> > Personally, I have few ideas at the moment.  That's mainly because it is
> > one in the morning, but also because I haven't had much to do with them
> > for a while.  The paperwork is not worth it for the piddly amounts I
> > apply for: I do better just getting a job for the days that I would
> > spend writing proposals and aquittals, and I don't get bound up in the
> > kinds of idiotic commitments I put in funding proposals, nor do I have
> > to wait at the letterbox to know what I'll be doing over the next six
> > months.  But you lot will have ideas.
> > 
> > 
> > Douglas
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