There was just an ewaste day recently in Wellington and from the  
sounds of it, perfectly good computers were being discarded/shipped  
off to China. I think something like that would be very useful  
especially for setting up an opensource community based computer art  
lab. excellent suggestion.

morgan


On 7/10/2009, at 9:56 PM, Julian Oliver wrote:

> ..on Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:11:10PM +1300, Pohio, Nathan wrote:
>> Re: Another submission we could make: CNZ strategic plan
>>
>> Big Elephants:
>> Also can see the value in that our institutions do need to think  
>> through
>> how to best get the necessary equipment they need for artists. Most  
>> of
>> the larger Elephants in the room are getting a bit better , and  
>> seem to
>> come more often in their budget considerations. Still , a well paid
>> individual(s) to assist seems a good and idea and could make for a  
>> very
>> interesting part of a carrier for someone , especially considering  
>> how
>> many institutions currently talk to each other and negotiate the  
>> sharing
>> of equipment...
>
> As I mentioned last post, I wonder whether the digital arts scene in  
> NZ could
> benefit here from a corporate computer recycling program akin to  
> that of
> http://recycle.lowtech.org/
>
> Lowtech has donations of hundreds of computers at a time - often  
> just a couple
> of years old and - sent from corporations and government offices  
> rather than
> shipped off to China or India for 'recycling' (or simply made into  
> landfill).
> They throw on a modern Linux distribution and distribute them to arts
> organisations in turn. A formalised recycling program like this  
> could pump PC
> hardware - at the least - into events and workshops where needed,  
> reducing the
> portion of the budget otherwise spent on this hardware.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
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>>   1. Re: Another submission we could make: CNZ strategic plan
>>      (Ian Clothier)
>>   2. Re: Another submission we could make: CNZ strategic plan
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>> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:00:42 +1300
>> From: "Ian Clothier" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ada_list] Another submission we could make: CNZ
>>      strategic plan
>> To: "trudy lane" <[email protected]>,       "Robert Appierdo"
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>> Great discussion,
>>
>> How about a network of events - every year there are ADA Agm's  
>> there's
>> SPARK, SCAPE, SCANZ every two years, etc - it would be possible to
>> create social networks and move workstations and gear around to each
>> event (equipment needs budget). There would need to be a local
>> co-ordinator who facilitated events, that takes budget, as does some
>> form of national co-ordinator. In regions, the schools often have
>> established communication infrastructure, these could be co- 
>> ordination
>> points. It would be good to see something spread wide and  
>> throughout the
>> country, predicated on a vision of reaching the widest possible
>> community via electronic media and engaging with it. There would  
>> need to
>> be interaction with groups outside of the art context - like the  
>> Linux
>> groups that are every where.
>>
>> Ian M Clothier
>> intercreate.org
>> ianclothier.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] on behalf of trudy lane
>> Sent: Wed 10/7/2009 10:46 AM
>> To: Robert Appierdo
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Ada_list] Another submission we could make: CNZ  
>> strategic
>> plan
>>
>>
>> On these...
>>
>>
>>> 2. ADA summer camp
>>> Based on something that Zita wrote....
>>
>>> 3. Getting it out to rural areas aka. freaking the locals out.
>>> Great idea. Love it.
>>
>>
>> I don't have the gears -- but I have a 3-bdrm farmhouse with a nice
>> outlook and two outside buildings, lots of lawn & 43 acres of  
>> paddocks
>> around it if that might be useful. If someone wanted to help organise
>> a bit of a summer camp there you'd be more than welcome. It's an hour
>> south of Auckland in the country area of Miranda (the beach is
>> mudflats & mangroves and international-traveller birds, but there is
>> also the 'largest natural hotsprings in the southern  
>> hemisphere' (last
>> i checked) nearby) and good fish and chips. :).
>>
>> //t.
>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:01:54 +1300
>> From: trudy lane <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ada_list] Another submission we could make: CNZ
>>      strategic plan
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>> Yes, agreed in that it would again be encouraging to existing  
>> networks
>> and efforts, and would fit in nicely with CNZ aims Phil was
>> mentioning. It would also be nice to find ways to strategically
>> develop the cohesion that we have.
>>
>> Equipment does have all those known issues of coordination, storage &
>> security, maintenance, updating, transport, and other logistics as  
>> has
>> been discussed on the list around the lab idea earlier. To apply for
>> funding one coordinator from one of these groups does seem an
>> appropriately distributed approach. It would at minimum allow for
>> these and other events/organisations to hold things off-grid in terms
>> of institutional locales.
>>
>> The part I am not clear on is that with the huge variation of skill
>> and knowledge sets that are often with particular people, and have a
>> specific set of gear requirements to match, I am wondering whether
>> there would be a set of stuff that be useful across these events/
>> networks/groups. What would that wish list look like?
>>
>> OK I better do the day job... !
>> Douglas? Your turn? ;)
>>
>> //t.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Ian Clothier wrote:
>>
>>> Great discussion,
>>>
>>> How about a network of events - every year there are ADA Agm's
>>> there's SPARK, SCAPE, SCANZ every two years, etc - it would be
>>> possible to create social networks and move workstations and gear
>>> around to each event (equipment needs budget). There would need to
>>> be a local co-ordinator who facilitated events, that takes budget,
>>> as does some form of national co-ordinator. In regions, the schools
>>> often have established communication infrastructure, these could be
>>> co-ordination points. It would be good to see something spread wide
>>> and throughout the country, predicated on a vision of reaching the
>>> widest possible community via electronic media and engaging with it.
>>> There would need to be interaction with groups outside of the art
>>> context - like the Linux groups that are every where.
>>>
>>> Ian M Clothier
>>> intercreate.org
>>> ianclothier.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] on behalf of trudy lane
>>> Sent: Wed 10/7/2009 10:46 AM
>>> To: Robert Appierdo
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Ada_list] Another submission we could make: CNZ
>>> strategic plan
>>>
>>>
>>> On these...
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. ADA summer camp
>>>> Based on something that Zita wrote....
>>>
>>>> 3. Getting it out to rural areas aka. freaking the locals out.
>>>> Great idea. Love it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have the gears -- but I have a 3-bdrm farmhouse with a nice
>>> outlook and two outside buildings, lots of lawn & 43 acres of  
>>> paddocks
>>> around it if that might be useful. If someone wanted to help  
>>> organise
>>> a bit of a summer camp there you'd be more than welcome. It's an  
>>> hour
>>> south of Auckland in the country area of Miranda (the beach is
>>> mudflats & mangroves and international-traveller birds, but there is
>>> also the 'largest natural hotsprings in the southern  
>>> hemisphere' (last
>>> i checked) nearby) and good fish and chips. :).
>>>
>>> //t.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trudy Lane  Intercreate Research Centre
>>> .- --- - . .- .-. --- .- .-. .- .-. .- -. --. .- - .- -. --. .- - .-
>>> http://www.intercreate.org/   e: [email protected]    m: +64 21
>>> 528 321
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