Hi > On 16 Apr 2016, at 02:23, Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 08:27:00PM +0300, Momchil Petrov wrote: >> The situation seems to me big-LIR don't allow new-LIR to grow up... is >> this cartel or something > > There is no way a "new-LIR" can grow to, say, a /12 level that some of > the big and old Telcos have - which is unfortunate, but we did not make > IPv4 with these short addresses. > Let me add something, if you have a business need /12 and your business can not even raise 10m in cash, seriously, I think there is something wrong with it.
So no, new people can still grow to whatever size they want, maybe 10-15% more investment than the "good old time", but anyone who have done investment would tell you in exchange for a successful business, 10-15% more is tolerateble. > To the contrary: *because* the policy is so restrictive, "new-LIR" can > have a business at all - if we had no last-/8 restrictions, RIPE NCC would > have run out of addresses over a year ago, so "nothing at all" for new-LIRs. > > Which is more fair? > > (And we have this restrictive policy because the *old* LIRs restricted > themselves(!) from eating up all the space, leaving something for the > new LIRs to come) > > Gert Doering > -- APWG chair > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
