Moin,

just a quick reply as well.

Am 22.10.2016 um 23:30 schrieb Sander Steffann:

>
>> Let's play it through: The policy change gets approved and implemented, and 
>> now a /64 of my IPv6 PI for my WiFi is ok. (And giving a /64 or less to my 
>> kids/neighbour/barber is as well?) But, I actually operate two WiFis, one 
>> for the general public and one for my family. Thus, I now use a /63 in 
>> total, but only a /64 each, for WiFi. Ok, not ok?Ok, as: »Within the context 
>> of these policies, a sub-assignment is an assignment of a length of /64 or 
>> shorter.«
>>
>> (Actually, it would not be ok, as »/64 or shorter« still prohibts use of /64 
>> for e. g. WiFi. The proposal therefore should read »/63 or shorter« or 
>> »shorter than /64«, I think, or SLAAC is not an option anymore.)
> You are misunderstanding. We're not talking about what you configure on your 
> Wi-Fi, we're talking about what you delegate to third parties: the users of 
> the Wi-Fi. Unless you assign a whole /64 to a single Wi-Fi user it's within 
> the proposed policy.

Bear with me; I still cannot accept the conflicting-with-policy definition of 
»delegate« or »assign« in the context of RA or DHCPv6.

Proposal states: »As an example, some Freifunk Communities in Germany have been 
had their PI request declined because some 1-digit-number of subnets would have 
been used as IPv6 prefixes on public WIFIs. This usage of the IP space in the 
End User’s infrastructure has been interpreted as a sub-assignment of a /128 
prefix. This would have been "assigned" to a user device of the public WIFI 
network as the device would get an IP address via SLAAC (or any other means for 
that matter).«

So, since anything _above_ /64 (e. g. /65 to /128) would be whitewashed by the 
proposal, using a whole /48 PA or PI for /64s for WiFis would be ok, as long as 
each WiFi user only gets less than a /64 »assigned«?

Proposal states: »Today, organisation networks usually include some kind of 
guest networks, (public) WIFI hotspots in their offices, PTP-VPN links to 
customers’ sites, or anything similar where devices of non-members of the 
organisation would get assigned an IP out of the organisation’s prefix.«

These days I configure P2P links as /64 (with ::1 and ::2 being the endpoints), 
because ... people actually tried to hit me with cluebats when I carried over 
IPv4-behaviour of /32 or /31 links into IPv6 (/127). So, even after this 
proposal, I am not allowed to use my IPv6 PA or PI space to build P2P-links 
outside my organisation, e. g. for peering, with a netmask of /64? But at least 
anything above /64 (read: /127) in PI would be ok, which currently isn't, 
neither for PA nor PI?

Regards,
-kai


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