On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Russell McOrmond wrote:

> On 28 Jul 2002, Ian Anderson wrote:

> >     Advocacy is another issue.  I think Canopener.ca is better equipped to
> > handle that, they have a broader mandate (all open source software) and
> > that is their primary objective.

Broader mandate != better equipped

Is Canopener incorporated? Does it have funding? Does it have contacts
capable of providing sponsorships and affiliations? Or is it indeed any
more than a website looking much like a clone of newsforge?

Canopener has people and some energy but no infrastructure. CLUE has
infrastructure and some potential revenue streams but not enough people. I
suggest there is a synergy here.

Advocacy is not putting up a website and hoping people find it. Advocacy
is getting into the faces of those who would belittle or ignore you. That
requires more than websites or technical solutions. It requires money, it
requires infrastructure, and it requires the right kind of people to
advance the message and get in the faces (politely) of others.

> > Also if CLUE stays out of advocacy it
> > has a better chance at getting charitable status which will really help
> > with fund raising.

Sorry, but this is bunk. Please get rid of this romantic idea that
charitable status is the path to all sorts of money. It isn't.

Charitable status is extremely difficult to get, extremely difficult and
expensive to maintain, involves constant scrutiny by government
bureaucrats, and does not necessary ensure more successful fundraising
than a non-profit business deduction.

(Personally, I would see resorting to charity status as a failure of our
primary goals of advancing the use of Linux and open source.)

Dan York and I were able to collect $500,000 US for LPI before it even had
its own bank account, let alone charitable status. If your *purpose* is
considered both worthy and viable by would-be funders, it's easier to get
money from them. If your purpose is considered frivolous, or otherwise
unworthy of funds, nobody will give regardless of status. And being
charitable requires us to employ auditors and accounting practices that
impact our budget before we spend a cent on the things we consider
worthwhile.

> This is important to decide.  There are a number of projects underway
> to deal with different parts of Advocacy, and I suspect having CLUE
> not duplicate these efforts would be useful.

>From here I see a scattered bunch of efforts with no business plans, no
effective courses of action, and thus no real effectiveness. I see
collections of people sitting around talking about lots of things but
doing little.

Someone needs to provide:

- Position papers to present to the CRTC and parliamentary committees on
  issues that affect open source users, such as the punitive tax on
  blank media that assumes that all CD burning exists to illegally
  reproduce copyrighted material;

- Public speakers capable of traveling to hearings and eloquently
  advancing the case for open source to tech-ignorant (and possibly
  tech-hostile) politicians and mandarins;

- A speakers' bureau capable of providing names of folks who will speak to
  any group curious to know about Linux and open source;

- Effective public relations that put Linux into the mainstream of the
  Canadian news media -- not just the IT press but the stuff aimed at the
  general public. That means an affective means to explain open source to
  people who may know little about computers, let alone Linux;

- Publicity and advertising resources and info that LUGs can use when
  working with their local media outlets;

- A constant and effective counterpoint to Microsoft's heavily-funded
  FUD campaigns (and to a lesser extent Sun's scattered anti-Linux efforts);

- Lobbyists who will meet and keep contact with MPs (and MPPs and  MLAs etc.)
  charged with technical issues, be it Ministers or Deputy Ministers or
  Shadow Ministers or committee chairs or relevant committees of political
  parties or whatever;

I'm sorry, but I don't see any of the mentioned groups providing anything
at all like what I've described above. So no, if CLUE decides to take on
these challenging tasks I don't see any overlap with canopener or any of
the other groups. While I see all sorts of DMCA talk on flora there's no
record of the group having made formal representation to the government
forums on digital copyright. Without an official position made to the
gov't such forums amount to little more than virtual navel-gazing.

The tasks above require salesmanship more than debating skill, and real
people's time and hard work. They require PR forms and lawyers who
understand what's at stake if laws are changed and can help teach us the
rules of the games we will be forced to play. These are all resources
which are IMO in fairly short supply in this community.

As just the simplest of examples of the community's lack of salesmanship:
the very fact that people still insist on using the term GNU/Linux in
public instead of just "Linux" demonstrates a total misunderstanding of
how to sell Linux to the general public. There are certain political
agendas that need to be shelved in favour of the greater benefit that
comes from a message that doesn't confuse.

The difference between conventional Linux advocacy and what *really* needs
to be done is to consider the target audience. We must provide messages
that are simple, non-technical and unambiguous, presented in the times and
places where they make the most impact.

It is my belief that these tasks can be done by CLUE, and should indeed be
CLUE's primary reason for being. Conventional Linux advocacy alone just
won't cut it. Providing a clearing house of information is, by comparison,
a relatively trivial and technical task that won't attract a cent of
corporate sponsorship. And charitable status won't affect that by one
shred.

- Evan



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