>>...it's realy hard to look through a list of editing >>request from mandy.com...
What's even harder is finding one that pays...LOL Regards --- Frank Mixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Brown is his name.. I checked. Go to > www.adobeevangelists.com, keep me posted... I could > probably use some of the 'facts and figures" they > might have.. They could probably give you some > ideas on how you could promote Premiere for them... > Its to their advantage. If you get something > going on with them, please let me know, or let them > know of us other Premiere users, trying to make a > living with their product(s). > > -Frank > > > > Johnny Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Frank, I think I'll approach Daniel Brown (if > that's his name), > seriously it's realy hard to look through a list of > editing request from > mandy.com and see every one of them is about avid or > fcp... Bleh.. In > the meantime, we need to make awareness out there so > there's more > opportunity within the city, how does others that > work for corporates > feel on this? Corporations usually have a set of > on-going customers that > wouldn't care the process but rather the end, yet > what about the new > prospect? Is it hard to convince them to go with you > (besides the > obvious 'rate' bidding process) based on editing > equipment? > > Johnny > ================ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Frank Mixson > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AP] Venting - how do you cope when > faced with clients that > wants FCP? > > > Well Damn Johnny, you done just blew up all the way, > haven't you? lol > > First of all.. let me say this.. If you find > yourself booked up and > turning down editing jobs... PLEASE steer some of > them this way.. > (rents late, car's down, blah, blah, blah, lol). > > > Now to your topic... I thought that premiere was > starting to make > inroads into a mac dominated field. Its just a > strange prejudice that > people have about editing software. You've seen a > lot of my work, > Johnny, and its all Premiere. Its too bad that the > clients know just > enough to be prejudice... Editing is an means to an > end, and its the > final product that's importat. A cut is a cut, a > transition is a > transition.. What you have in the end is what really > matters. > > Maybe next time... when they ask you which you use, > ask what difference > does it make? That might give you an opportunity to > educate them > some... Perhaps remind them that 20 years no one > would hardly buy > foreign cars, not because they were better or worse, > but just that they > were different.. > > That PR guy for Adobe, the "adobe evangelist", I > think his name is > Daniel Brown (or something like that), may be able > to provide you with > some statistics, and/or other facts to help you deal > with this type of > potential client. > > And seriously Johnny, I could use some editing work > if you're ever > overwhelmed.... > > Frank Mixson > > > > > > > Johnny Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, this is not technical but rather to hear your > comments, most of the > members here are using Adobe Premiere as your > editing system, I think a > few also uses as your editing tool as a freelance > editor, I would love > to hear your comment, I've posted this already at > Adobe Premiere Pro > Forum with little good response other than "buy fcp > to satisfy the > idiots then" mentality... Which I'm not here to bash > either one or the > other... Please read this and I surely would like to > open this as a > discussion, how we can, as an Adobe user, slowly > help change the > perception (not easy, but it's a possible, grass > root effort)... > > Surely everyone on this list have heard of FCP and > how G5+FCP have > helped in many Hollywood films and some very > successful independent > filmmakers, commercials, etc. Very little we hear > about how Premiere did > the job (the most recent about Premiere was with > Dust to Glory HD > feature, but most we hear is FCP this FCP that). Not > to mention, mose > Universities/Technical schools in USA that have a > communication > department uses Mac and have FCP courses, Not much > about Premiere... And > I bet, some of the people who submitted to Adobe's > design competition, > most of them are using a Mac. :) Plus majority of > graphic design, ad > agency, etc are using Mac (including many of you in > this forum got one, > etc)... > > After a successful show/run with my latest film A > Joker's Card with good > critice reviews and winning a Telly Award, I've > found myself standing in > a position where 'EVERYONE' wants me to be > associated with their project > and everyone want me to help edit theirs, I get > about 3-5 request a day > via phone call or email. And out of these, about 80% > of them asked "did > you do it with FCP?" if I said no, they would be > "oh, I want you to help > me but you aren't using FCP, oh well, thanks" (these > are paying gig). > > Then I got a HUGE list of crew/job available on, I > transferred it to > Microsoft Word... 131 pages, list pay/low pay/no pay > jobs available in > the USA that was posted with Mandy.com, I actually, > went through all of > them one by one reading and reading and with ALL of > them that asks for > editors that work in FCP or Avid, not one for > Premiere... (let's leave > Avid out for now... They are re-campaigning strongly > to get their feet > back to the industry game...) > > So, now finally I landed with a big project that > would be a weekly 13 > episode show, the client want HD after episode 6th, > and I promised them > it's not a problem... (either using JVC HD100 HDV > first or by Nov 2005 - > according to Panny, the Panasonic HVX200 will be > available and I can go > with 2 of those)... > > Because of this client, I went and checked on 'off > the shelf' pricing > for uncompressed HD editing system, Adobe have one > for about $16k, > Apple, incredibly speaking can have one (with more > gadget added on than > Adobe's offered) for $17k... And I can put one > together myself for $6k > (this my choice btw) :) > > So, here's what I got frustrated, I wanted to > continue working with > Adobe Premiere Pro, because it's really good, it > evolved from the 4.0 > when I used to work with and I'm not eager to > re-learn a new tool. But I > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! 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