>>...it's realy hard to look through a list of editing
>>request from mandy.com... 

What's even harder is finding one that pays...LOL
Regards

--- Frank Mixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daniel Brown is his name.. I checked.  Go to
> www.adobeevangelists.com, keep me posted... I could
> probably use some of the 'facts and figures" they
> might have..  They could probably give you some
> ideas on how you could promote Premiere for them... 
>  Its to their advantage.   If you get something
> going on with them, please let me know, or let them
> know of us other Premiere users, trying to make a
> living with their product(s).
>  
> -Frank
>  
> 
> 
> Johnny Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Frank, I think I'll approach Daniel Brown (if
> that's his name),
> seriously it's realy hard to look through a list of
> editing request from
> mandy.com and see every one of them is about avid or
> fcp... Bleh.. In
> the meantime, we need to make awareness out there so
> there's more
> opportunity within the city, how does others that
> work for corporates
> feel on this? Corporations usually have a set of
> on-going customers that
> wouldn't care the process but rather the end, yet
> what about the new
> prospect? Is it hard to convince them to go with you
> (besides the
> obvious 'rate' bidding process) based on editing
> equipment?
> 
> Johnny
> ================
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Frank Mixson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AP] Venting - how do you cope when
> faced with clients that
> wants FCP?
> 
> 
> Well Damn Johnny, you done just blew up all the way,
> haven't you? lol
> 
> First of all.. let me say this..   If you find
> yourself booked up and
> turning down editing jobs...  PLEASE steer some of
> them this way..
> (rents late, car's down, blah, blah, blah, lol).
> 
> 
> Now to your topic...  I thought that premiere was
> starting to make
> inroads into a mac dominated field.  Its just a
> strange prejudice that
> people have about editing software.  You've seen a
> lot of my work,
> Johnny, and its all Premiere.  Its too bad that the
> clients know just
> enough to be prejudice...  Editing is an means to an
> end, and its the
> final product that's importat.  A cut is a cut, a
> transition is a
> transition.. What you have in the end is what really
> matters.    
> 
> Maybe next time... when they ask you which you use,
> ask what difference
> does it make?  That might give you an opportunity to
> educate them
> some...    Perhaps remind them that 20 years no one
> would hardly buy
> foreign cars, not because they were better or worse,
> but just that they
> were different.. 
> 
> That PR guy for Adobe, the "adobe evangelist", I
> think his name is
> Daniel Brown (or something like that), may be able
> to provide you with
> some statistics, and/or other facts to help you deal
> with this type of
> potential client.
> 
> And seriously Johnny, I could use some editing work
> if you're ever
> overwhelmed....  
> 
> Frank Mixson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Johnny Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, this is not technical but rather to hear your
> comments, most of the
> members here are using Adobe Premiere as your
> editing system, I think a
> few also uses as your editing tool as a freelance
> editor, I would love
> to hear your comment, I've posted this already at
> Adobe Premiere Pro
> Forum with little good response other than "buy fcp
> to satisfy the
> idiots then" mentality... Which I'm not here to bash
> either one or the
> other... Please read this and I surely would like to
> open this as a
> discussion, how we can, as an Adobe user, slowly
> help change the
> perception (not easy, but it's a possible, grass
> root effort)...
> 
> Surely everyone on this list have heard of FCP and
> how G5+FCP have
> helped in many Hollywood films and some very
> successful independent
> filmmakers, commercials, etc. Very little we hear
> about how Premiere did
> the job (the most recent about Premiere was with
> Dust to Glory HD
> feature, but most we hear is FCP this FCP that). Not
> to mention, mose
> Universities/Technical schools in USA that have a
> communication
> department uses Mac and have FCP courses, Not much
> about Premiere... And
> I bet, some of the people who submitted to Adobe's
> design competition,
> most of them are using a Mac. :) Plus majority of
> graphic design, ad
> agency, etc are using Mac (including many of you in
> this forum got one,
> etc)...
> 
> After a successful show/run with my latest film A
> Joker's Card with good
> critice reviews and winning a Telly Award, I've
> found myself standing in
> a position where 'EVERYONE' wants me to be
> associated with their project
> and everyone want me to help edit theirs, I get
> about 3-5 request a day
> via phone call or email. And out of these, about 80%
> of them asked "did
> you do it with FCP?" if I said no, they would be
> "oh, I want you to help
> me but you aren't using FCP, oh well, thanks" (these
> are paying gig).
> 
> Then I got a HUGE list of crew/job available on, I
> transferred it to
> Microsoft Word... 131 pages, list pay/low pay/no pay
> jobs available in
> the USA that was posted with Mandy.com, I actually,
> went through all of
> them one by one reading and reading and with ALL of
> them that asks for
> editors that work in FCP or Avid, not one for
> Premiere... (let's leave
> Avid out for now... They are re-campaigning strongly
> to get their feet
> back to the industry game...)
> 
> So, now finally I landed with a big project that
> would be a weekly 13
> episode show, the client want HD after episode 6th,
> and I promised them
> it's not a problem... (either using JVC HD100 HDV
> first or by Nov 2005 -
> according to Panny, the Panasonic HVX200 will be
> available and I can go
> with 2 of those)...
> 
> Because of this client, I went and checked on 'off
> the shelf' pricing
> for uncompressed HD editing system, Adobe have one
> for about $16k,
> Apple, incredibly speaking can have one (with more
> gadget added on than
> Adobe's offered) for $17k... And I can put one
> together myself for $6k
> (this my choice btw) :)
> 
> So, here's what I got frustrated, I wanted to
> continue working with
> Adobe Premiere Pro, because it's really good, it
> evolved from the 4.0
> when I used to work with and I'm not eager to
> re-learn a new tool. But I
> 
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