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Terri

Jim Walker wrote:
> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>   
>> I'm going to go ahead and finalize this for our new policy. You guys 
>> cool with that? We can always evolve it as need be ...
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>     
>
> +1
>
> Jim
>   
>> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>>     
>>> I'd like to add one more thing. I think we should make clear that both 
>>> Core Contributors /and/ Contributors need to accept their grants on 
>>> list. So, if I nominate John Smith for Contributor and Joe Ryan adds a 
>>> +1 I think John Smith should respond with a "thanks, I accept the grant" 
>>> note so we all know that John actually wants it. Again, the Constitution 
>>> is clear for Core Contributors about this but is silent on Contributors 
>>> accepting their grant.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Brandorr wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Is not one participant enough to start a user group? I know when we
>>>>> started it was only two participants, but really only one was needed.
>>>>> (Once the UG is formed, we got more just because it existed and we
>>>>> were able to advertise it's existence.
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> I actually wanted to have a minimum of five, to be honest. :) I think 
>>>> three is more than reasonable, but I'd accept two if people really 
>>>> wanted that change. However, I'm not at all willing to go to one.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Finally, I don't see any reason why people can't nominate themselves.
>>>>> (We actually allowed this in the past, and for this last round of
>>>>> nominations.) (They still would need the three approvals.) I just feel
>>>>> it is kinda silly, because what you will end up having is people
>>>>> saying "Please nominate me."
>>>>>  instead of "I nominate myself and I need three approvals". It's
>>>>> effectively the same thing, no?
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Nominate themselves for what? Core Contributor or Contributor?
>>>>
>>>> The Constitution (7.8) is clear about the Core Contributor in that 
>>>> he/she needs to be nominated by a Core Contributor, get the votes, etc. 
>>>> However, the Constitution says very little about Contributors, so I'm 
>>>> trying to find a balance here until the Constitution is updated. Earlier 
>>>> in the thread I had it that people could nominate themselves for 
>>>> Contributor and if they got no -1 votes they'd get in. That wasn't good. 
>>>> So, I put +1 voting back in for Contributors but set it to two +1 votes, 
>>>> whereas Core Contributors have to get three +1s. So, I'm cool with 
>>>> people nominating themselves for Contributor status /with the addition/ 
>>>> of +1 voting I added in this version of the document.
>>>>
>>>> So, under this scenario, if I nominate Participant John Smith to be a 
>>>> Contributor, he starts out with one +1 vote since I nominated him and he 
>>>> only needs one more +1 vote. If he nominates himself, he needs to find 
>>>> two +1votes because he has no nomination and the bar should be one tick 
>>>> higher. That seems like a good way to go for now. Keep in mind that the 
>>>> Constitution is not even clear on the notion of nominations counting as 
>>>> +1votes. I'm adding that since it just seems reasonable.
>>>>
>>>> So, shall I make these changes and publish this?
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>     
>>>>         
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