I'd like to add one more thing. I think we should make clear that both 
Core Contributors /and/ Contributors need to accept their grants on 
list. So, if I nominate John Smith for Contributor and Joe Ryan adds a 
+1 I think John Smith should respond with a "thanks, I accept the grant" 
note so we all know that John actually wants it. Again, the Constitution 
is clear for Core Contributors about this but is silent on Contributors 
accepting their grant.

Jim


Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> Brandorr wrote:
>   
>> Is not one participant enough to start a user group? I know when we
>> started it was only two participants, but really only one was needed.
>> (Once the UG is formed, we got more just because it existed and we
>> were able to advertise it's existence.
>>   
>>     
>
> I actually wanted to have a minimum of five, to be honest. :) I think 
> three is more than reasonable, but I'd accept two if people really 
> wanted that change. However, I'm not at all willing to go to one.
>
>   
>> Finally, I don't see any reason why people can't nominate themselves.
>> (We actually allowed this in the past, and for this last round of
>> nominations.) (They still would need the three approvals.) I just feel
>> it is kinda silly, because what you will end up having is people
>> saying "Please nominate me."
>>  instead of "I nominate myself and I need three approvals". It's
>> effectively the same thing, no?
>>   
>>     
>
> Nominate themselves for what? Core Contributor or Contributor?
>
> The Constitution (7.8) is clear about the Core Contributor in that 
> he/she needs to be nominated by a Core Contributor, get the votes, etc. 
> However, the Constitution says very little about Contributors, so I'm 
> trying to find a balance here until the Constitution is updated. Earlier 
> in the thread I had it that people could nominate themselves for 
> Contributor and if they got no -1 votes they'd get in. That wasn't good. 
> So, I put +1 voting back in for Contributors but set it to two +1 votes, 
> whereas Core Contributors have to get three +1s. So, I'm cool with 
> people nominating themselves for Contributor status /with the addition/ 
> of +1 voting I added in this version of the document.
>
> So, under this scenario, if I nominate Participant John Smith to be a 
> Contributor, he starts out with one +1 vote since I nominated him and he 
> only needs one more +1 vote. If he nominates himself, he needs to find 
> two +1votes because he has no nomination and the bar should be one tick 
> higher. That seems like a good way to go for now. Keep in mind that the 
> Constitution is not even clear on the notion of nominations counting as 
> +1votes. I'm adding that since it just seems reasonable.
>
> So, shall I make these changes and publish this?
>
> Jim
>
>   


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