Hi all! I'm aware of several relatively limited-in-scope Perl wikis:
1. Win32 Perl's : http://win32.perl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page - Pretty active so far 2. pound-perl.pm : http://p3m.org/ - seems dead for more than a year. 3. Perl-Begin's - http://perl-begin.berlios.de/Wiki/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page - also very inactive. I've placed some links, tutorials and essays there, but did not update it since. There are also local or ad-hoc wikis for conferences, and local Perl Monger groups, and some of them are active, very active or quite useful, but they don't really account. While I may be invoking Joel's Quarreling Kids Rule here[1], I think a central wiki for Perl may be a good idea, not only as a way to consolidate all these specialised wiki's, but also to be "The Perl Wiki" which everyone will refer to. We can have http://wiki.perl.org/ for easy linking and good Google Juice. Adam Kennedy and I used MediaWiki for win32.perl.org and the Perl-Begin's wikis respectively. It's my favourite wiki engine by far, and it's probably the wiki engine with most wikitext there written in (by property of being used in Wikipedia, and many other wikis). It's written in PHP and requires a MySQL database, but that shouldn't matter much to us: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2000/12/advocacy.html [2] It is derived from UseModWiki, which is a nice easy-to-install and use wiki written in Perl, which has become relatively unmaintained by its author. UseModWiki has a fork called Oddmuse which should be better. (and is also written in Perl). Now the MediaWiki syntax is backwards compatible with the UseMod/Oddmuse wikis' one, albeit it has many more extensions. I have once installed UseModWiki, but did not try Oddmuse yet. Kwiki is very modular and its code should be very clean, but I personally find the default (and currently only) syntax very limiting and annoying. It is possible to write a better syntax and plug-it in yet, but no-one's did it yet. One can possibly port it from UseModWiki. After talking with many people on #perl's IRC, I know that many of them would like something like that. If we want to use MediaWiki, we could get hosting at Wikia ( http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia ). In fact, I'm considering moving the Perl-Begin wiki there too (unless of course there will be wiki.perl.org where I'll incorporate the Perl Begin content there under the Beginners/ section), because it's hard to maintain more than one MediaWiki instance in Berlios.de. This is assuming people don't want the trouble of admining a wiki on the perl.org wiki. (Which is time consuming due to security upgrades, version upgrades and dealing with spam, as I could tell from admining the various MediaWiki instances on iglu.org.il.). Regards, Shlomi Fish [1] - See: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html Quoting a paragraph or two: <<<<<<< But the idea of unifying the mess of Visual Basic and Windows API programming by creating a completely new, ground-up programming environment with not one, not two, but three languages (or are there four?) is sort of like the idea of getting two quarreling kids to stop arguing by shouting "shut up!" louder than either of them. It only works on TV. In real life when you shout "shut up!" to two people arguing loudly you just create a louder three-way argument. >>>>>>> There's a bit more about Atom and RSS there. [2] - I did receive some heat from the Israeli Pythoneers Group ( http://www.python.org.il/ ) which I helped initiate, for using MediaWiki instead of MoinMoin. One of the Israeli Pythoneers is a MoinMoin developer, and he recommended it. We found two problems in MediaWiki that were better in MoinMoin: 1. On Hebrew Pages the main Hebrew title was left-aligned instead of right-aligned because the entire wiki had English as the default language. This was a relatively minor problem. 2. It was not very possible to have versions of the pages in different languages using the same wiki instance. (Unless you put them under different URLs). This was an annoyance, but I think we ended up having pages with both Hebrew and English in them anyhow. At one point one of the Pythoneers, installed MoinMoin on iglu.org.il in a relatively hacky way and using lots of symlinks. I ended up telling him that since I already have 4 instances of MediaWiki (6 or so now), using the same central directory and configuration file, I did not want to bother to worry about another wiki of a different implementation. This convinced him that they should maintain such a MoinMoin wiki on a different host (or in a MoinMoin provider.) It wasn't set up yet, and I think right now most of them are content with the MediaWiki instance, which isn't seeing too much activity anyway (except some towards meetings). Today I disabled an iglu.org.il domain which only had one old (and probably hole-ridden) instance of PHP-BB... "Sys admin is a job for masochists, but it let you also be sadistic sometimes." Regards, Shlomi Fish --------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ 95% of the programmers consider 95% of the code they did not write, in the bottom 5%.
