Cheerskep

I remember this interview now.  Read it some time ago.  I dont subscribe to
everything he says of course.  I seem to remember reading bits of his
Literatures Lost for example and not agreeing with his views on Rousseau.

But as for his views on language I think they are very interesting indeed.
He is a truly original thinker not a blind follower. One needs to read his
book to get a better idea.  He writes very well which is a bonus.

DA

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Derek writes:

> The best book I have ever read on language is 'Language, Thought, and
Logic
> (Rethinking Theory)' by John Ellis. Among other things, his book shows
that
> the different major theories of language are only partial solutions at
best.
> He offers a kind of synthesis but even if you don't agree with him, his
book
> is excellent. I am always amazed that it is referred to so seldom.
Possibly
> because he isn't a disciple of any particular school of thought - always a
> serious error.
>
> You surprise me Derek. Go to the following url. It belongs to The Atlas
Society, and Ayn Rand website. The url brings you to an extended interview
with
Ellis. To me, the thinking he advocates seems badly defective --   certainly
the
section on his language book is. It surprises me that you of all listers
would
feel the following exaltation of "analysis" is excellent:

http://www.objectivistcenter.org/showcontent.aspx?ct=85&h=51



Navigator: Now what is the role of the literary critic?

Ellis: Critics of literature, like most people, have a number of related
functions; there is no need to make one of them exclusive. They can deepen
the
understanding and appreciation of readers; they can interpret the meaning of

complicated texts; they can produce knowledge about literature and its
traditions;
and so on. Contemporary academic critics seem to think that their major role

is to judge whether the great writers fall short of moral purity as measured

by their own highly unrealistic and in any case modern standards. This is a
self-obsessed kind of criticism. It is hard to see why anyone would read
Shakespeare if all they had in mind was to see how much of a sexist or
homophobe he
was.

Navigator: Given that the function of literature requires an author and is
facilitated by a critic, what is the role played by a theorist of literary
criticism?

Ellis: Theorists in the field of literature should be essentially the same
as
theorists in any other field: they are people who re-analyze other people's
work, looking at general ideas or large patterns of significance, at basic
methodological questions, or at unexamined assumptions. The skill they need
above
all others is analysis. The problem with theory in the field of literature
right now is that that those who call themselves "theorists" are actually
dogmatic proponents of exceptionally rigid views. In other words, they are
anti-theorists. They are not good at analysis,





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