Re: 'I'm not suggesting that your judgment of art/non-art should have
any criteria,
Derek.  (mine don't -- except post-facto).'

So what are they post facto?

RE:'  I'm just noting that criteria -- or any other kind of embodiment -- wasn't
>  there when you were thinking about whether those Goya prints were art or 
> not.'

Once I was thinking whether these were works of art or not, the
necessary words for that thought would need to have been available to
me.
Those weren't wordless thoughts.  Not that I spent a lot of time
deliberating whether these were works of art or not. I was too busy
just looking at them - in many cases fascinated.

The one I am about to put on Picasa I saw in Madrid I think. Amazing.

DA


On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not suggesting that your judgment of art/non-art should have any criteria,
>  Derek.  (mine don't -- except post-facto).
>
>  I'm just noting that criteria -- or any other kind of embodiment -- wasn't
>  there when you were thinking about whether those Goya prints were art or not.
>
>  And I'm offering this as an example of wordless thought that is held to be
>  very important -- or, at least important enough to set up your next argument
>  ("since the Goya prints *are* art, then......etc etc")
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