Re: '> I guess you're right, Derek --  there's no way to prove that
that there can
>  "be a thought without any way of embodying it - any way of expressing it". --
>  although that would be different from claiming that there have never been'

This is not quite what I said. I said it was not a question one could
answer by introspection.

RE: '>  But I'd still like to know --- what thoughts went through your
brain while you
>
> were looking at some of those Goya prints in the exhibit you recently saw?'

Mainly how impressive the prints were.  That, surprisingly, it wasn't
the Disasters of War that drew me the most but the Caprices and the
Disparates. Especially some of the latter.  Like entering a world of
... horror?  But not a fantasy world. A real world.  And how laughable
it would be to try describe any of them, especially the Disparates, in
terms of the notion of beauty. And what a pity it is that aesthetics
is still so much in the grip of that kind of thinking. And that that
is probably one of the reasons why it often seems so remote from the
world of art.  Things like that.

Not sure why you think any of this might be relevant...

DA

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess you're right, Derek --  there's no way to prove that that there can
>  "be a thought without any way of embodying it - any way of expressing it". --
>  although that would be different from claiming that there have never been
>  unexpressed thoughts.
>
>  But I'd still like to know --- what thoughts went through your brain while 
> you
>
> were looking at some of those Goya prints in the exhibit you recently saw?
>
>  Just pick one -- and tell us what you were thinking. Or -- were your thoughts
>  so unimportant to  you -- that you've already forgotten them.
>
>  Your answer might give us a handle on a number of issues that you've been
>  discussing.
>
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