Yes, it's hard to philosophically sure. Nevertheless, we must still act
(even if it takes some presidents a long time to do so).
Geoff C
From: "Frances Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Consciousness Assayed
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:24:08 -0400
Frances to Geoff and others...
It is agreed that the term "wrong" may not have been quite right,
because it implies the pain was felt to be say bad in mind. My
key point however remains that conscious states, and to include
referred phantom pain, must be the object of inferred
interpretation, which makes consciousness a phenomenal sign that
can be referred and deluded or doubted and judged. The human can
thus never be sure, even of what seems to be their own inner
self.
Geoff wrote...
Persons being "wrong" regarding the source of pain: I don't see a
function
in claiming that persons perceiving pain in an amputated limb are
"wrong". I
might say that I don't understand what is going on there. But to
say that
they are "wrong" : according to what do you tell them they are
"wrong". Your
consciousness might differ, you might not be able to explain
their
experience with logic currently available but, at a minimum,
within their
experiencing, I don't understand how they could be "wrong".
