And here in my psychoanalytic discourse, I thought I had addressed the subtleties of being permissiveness in terms of narcissist and in terms of the notion of negation - only to have it dismissed by the broad sweep a paternalistic scolding - that accuses rather than responds -
On 11/15/09 12:05 PM, "Boris Shoshensky" <[email protected]> wrote: "...to give the egoist's opinions equal weight to the well considered arguments of others..." We are witnessing plenty of an egoism and mindless subjectivity in some patronizing defensive slick statements of ours, taken narcissistically by writers to be "well considered arguments" and conveniently avoiding subtleties of the subject discussed, mixing some mature statements with Boris Shoshensky ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Question for Mando Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:14:00 -0500 We can't ignore the dynamics of dialectics. All opposites work simultaneously and as such the inverse of what one may strive for can result - consequently let us take a subjectivity such as Mando's It is not so personal as to be divorced from obligation and material conditions. After all isn't subjectivity a combination of belief, reason and awareness and as such is a highly 'functional' form by its nature , that is until it is reduced only self-indulgent beliefs, at that point it becomes egotistical and when one is will to grant this egoticism to all others - might not this act of generosity , be judged to be nothing more than a charming ploy meant to give the egoist's opinions equal weight to the well considered arguments of others, in which case we are no longer dealing with an egoist, but a narcissist intent on bring discourse to an end - in which case bloody tough love is an act of self preservation On 11/15/09 9:15 AM, "Boris Shoshensky" <[email protected]> wrote: It is correct recipe to make continuous advancements in the art academy career. I prefer tough love without 'blood'. To 'draw blood' is too selfish and it is no love, unless it is life saving 'surgery'. Boris Shoshensky To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Question for Mando Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:29:38 -0800 (PST) Let me be clear of one thing: I love all my fellow artists past and present and respect their efforts and ambitions without question. But in the ring, I'll try to whip them all to bloody pulps. In the game of attempting art, or of trying to confront it, the stakes require "do or die". In soldierly terms: no quarter is given. wc ----- Original Message ---- From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 5:38:38 PM Subject: Re: Question for Mando Tough month for you - first your sense of entitlement is questioned - and now you are a poser - what next, perhaps your artistic integrity will be questioned given your subjectivity and sense of creativity does not seem to exceed that of your clientele But never fear this will pass - its jjust the sharks smelling blood in the water On 11/14/09 6:10 PM, "armando baeza" <[email protected]> wrote: Posturing.... Hmmmm. mando On Nov 14, 2009, at 2:39 PM, William Conger wrote: > I think it's much more complicated than this simple assumption that > all curators choose according to their own tastes, even if they > have them. It may not be possible to disentangle all the > influences and coercions involved. The silent question is "What > should I choose?" and it may override, "What can I choose?" Who is > really free from these kinds of judgments, excepting of course, > those who never need to make public choices? > > Frankly, I think all this posturing about the freedom and purity of > the artist in creative choices and imaginative range is a lot of > BS. It only reinforces the silly and cartoony sentimentalist > romanticism of the artists and further estranges the artist from > society and its serious undertakings. Scientists rarely indulge in > such pretensions, and neither do professionals in other fields. > > wc > > > ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=8UO_Ny9Q598mglH__3W1BAAAJ1Gc l_zTaptgNR5c8Mer1v9kAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= --
