I wrote:

"For example, [Wittgenstein] does not seem aware here that in abruptly
using the word 'purpose' he could be stirring all sorts of very different
notion
in the minds
of his readers."

Kate then observed:
"Particularly since Zweck doesn't seem to mean only purpose, but purpose
which determines form. In section 2 the words are cues for defined actions.
Kate Sullivan"

I'm not sure what Kate has in mind with 'form', but she's right on point
when she says "cues for defined actions". The "actions" here are quite
specific: When the builder says, "Slab!", he wants the assistant to pick up a
slab
and bring it to the builder.

Back up. Focus on LW's bad phrase, "Is that the purpose of the word?" It's
bad because it fuses the builder and the builder's utterance. We may say
people have purposes - they can have goals in mind they want, things they
intend to accomplish.   "Words" are insensate and inert. They don't/can't want
or
intend anything. They don't do anything on (their own) purpose."

We, the people, frequently use "tools" to help us accomplish our purpose.
It is typical of our slurring minds that we soon ascribe the "purpose" to
the tool. (Our readiness to do this is no doubt increased when we
invent/fabricate the tool to help us in achieving our purpose. "The purpose of
this
special hammer is tob&") But a hammer, dumb, insensate, inert thing that it
is,
cannot have a purpose - only the hammerer can. The special wrench does not
intend to tighten nuts in hard-to-reach places. That is not a "goal" in the
wrench's mind. I'M the one who "means" to tighten the nut, not the wrench.
It's MY goal, my purpose, and yet we'll say, "The purpose of this wrench
isb&"

One of the tools we regularly use to accomplish an intended end, a purpose,
is words, "language". Our purpose in using words is to convey "what we have
in mind". "What we have in mind" is always "notional", in a broad sense of
that term. Our goal in speaking is to stir in the listener's mind a notion
that's as close to ours as possible (assuming we aren't trying to deceive).
We tend to call that notion OUR "meaning". "What I mean isb&" Note: again, as
with 'fight' or 'link', we use the same word - 'meaning' - whether we have
in mind the action of "meaning" something, or the notion "meant".

In typical slurring fashion, we soon ascribe that purpose, that "meaning",
to the word. WE are the ones doing the "meaning", WE are the ones who have
in mind the notion that is "meant" - and yet, because it is the tool we're
using, we soon find ourselves saying the WORD "means", and "its meaning"
isb&"

On to Kate's observation that in the specific instance of when the builder
says, "Slab!" to his assistant, it is a cue for a "defined action". The
"action" is quite specific: the assistant is to pick up a slab and bring it to
the builder. I claim LW's assertion that "THE meaning of a word" is "its use
in the community" is, one, unpersuasive, two, an arbitrary stipulation, and,
three, an instance of fuzzy reification of an unnecessary entity.

Unpersuasive: The builder used 'slab' in his community. Therefore, acc
ording to LW, that "use" is "THE meaning of 'slab' in the builder's
community." I
reject the implication that "pick up a slab and bring it to me" is "THE
meaning of" 'slab' whenever "slab" is uttered in the builder's community. E.g.
this might be a community conversation: "Harry was hurt when part of the
building fell on him." "Oh? What part - a pillar or a slab?" "Slab.") I.e.
LW's
phrasing suggests a uniformity of intent in all members of the community,
and that's obviously not the case. There is no single "its" use.

Arbitrary: The mayor of the community speaks to LW: "No, no, no - your
suggested meaning of 'the meaning of a word' is unacceptable to me because
it's
unpersuasive, and it's just an arbitrary stipulation by you. I stipulate
that the meaning of a word in this community is the notion that arises in my
mind whenever I look the word up in my OED. You may say that is arbitrary, but
I am the mayor, and whatever I say goes!"   Both the mayor and LW are
arbitrary stipulators.

Reifying and unnecessary:   Everything the builder intends, the
accomplishment of his goal, is entirely accounted for by a collection of
actions and
entities, none of which is yet another entity, "THE meaning of" the word
'slab'. He wants his assistant to bring him a slab. That desire - whether we
think of the "desire" as a notion in his mind (his desire), or an action in
his
mind (also "his desire") -- it is mental, notional. His utterance, "Slab!"
is a noise he intentionally creates.   The noise, when heard by the
assistant, stir's notion in the assistant's mind. That notion is the memory of
earlier "ostensive teaching" by the builder, the "association" that LW himself
acknowledges takes place. The builder had repeatedly trained the assistant by
pointing at slabs and saying "Slab", and then showing the assistant how to
pick one up, carry it to the ladder, and hand it up to the builder.

When we ponder the two different phrases -- "the meaning of the word for
the assistant" and "THE meaning of the word" -- two importantly different
notions arise in our mind.

We think of "the meaning of the word for the assistant" as solely notion in
his mind - memories associated with the word. But the phrase "THE meaning
of the word" suggests something more than merely recollections in the
assistant's mind; it blurrily suggests there exists an entity that is somehow
mind-independent, something that "is what it is" regardless of anyone's
idiosyncratic conditioned mental responses. "Yeah, well that may be what comes
to
YOUR mind, Bo, but that's not the meaning of the word!"

But since everything that we think of as happening when we speak of
"communication" can be accounted for without ever resorting to a "THE meaning
of",
I'd agree with Ockham who I believe would say - 'the meaning of' is
unnecessary, and an entity as chimerical as gremlins, and it should be
deleted. LW
was basically confused.

The following is okay in the kitchen, but not in philosophy: "'Apelsin'
means 'orange' in Swedish."

What do you say to someone who claims, "I woke up one morning, and all of
my stuff had been stolen and replaced by exact duplicates."  It's not the
philosopher's job to "prove negatives" - i.e. that gremlins, angels and
non-material, non-notional, "THE meanings of" DON'T exist. It's the job of the
guy
who includes a genus of entity in his ontology to prove they DO exist.
Actually, neither is likely to prove much. Their only realistic goal is to
PERSUADE.

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