Quality aside ,it take more money to make large works of art than small ones.
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 6:31:30 PM
Subject: Re: the boring false opposition between money and art

   It would be interesting to see if the better art were consistently made
in more prosperous times or if stress & poverty spurrd invention etc.
Kate Sullivan
In a message dated 12/3/10 11:58:17 AM, [email protected] writes:


> Dear List;
>
> Why do we fret over the art as commodity in today's world. . And why not
> look to
> the distant past to see how closely linked art and money were?  Abbot
> Suger, in
> his lavish 12C building of  St-Denis, used the richest materials and
> jewels,
> etc., as a metaphor to illustrate the richness of heaven.  For some
> reason,
> modernity has justified art partly on its spiritual value without ever
> determining what that is.  Perhaps Kandinsky came closest when he spoke of
>
> 'inner necessity" as the spiritual impulse; others did as much in
> different
> terms.  But no-one can say what, exactly, the spiritual is and how it is
> embedded in art, beyond alluding to it it largely romantic form.  At least
> Suger
> was honest enough to admit he couldn't "express" spirituality in material
> terms
> without metaphor, without equating the uniqueness of the former with the
> rarity
> of the latter. Thus the richer, rarer and more costly a thing is the more
> easily
> we can attribute to it the elusive spiritual substances that otherwise
> escape
> our grasp.  True for Suger, true for today's money-based art market.
>
>  We know a big diamond is not a spiritual presence but we easily accept
> the
> pretense through metaphor; likewise, we know that a painting costing a
> million
> dollars is not necessarily a significant, spiritually imbued artwork, but
> we can
> accept the pretense that it is through its market value, especially if
> that
> value is freely determined by a public auction.
>
>  The question regarding art and money deserves closer analysis than it
> gets.  It
> deserves a study of how we place value on immaterial qualities, or how and
> why
> we think they exist at all or have any value.  It is one thing to value
> material
> things with money as a relatively simple process. It is another thing
> altogether
> to try to value immaterial beliefs, customs, symbols, knowledge, feelings,
> and
> the like, in material ways.  It is of course done all the time anyway. For
>
> example, every court in the land does this on a routine basis in
> determining
> settlements or compensations.   Art is just one of many, many examples. 
> We
> don't really have any alternatives.  We are matter, art is matter, matter
> is
> equated with matter. The spiritual, the aesthetic, the subjective
> "qualities" of
> experience and desire, etc., are not matter.  But, paradoxically, they
> cannot
> exist except by metaphor; that is, as if they were matter.
>
> I plead to either bring this Art and Commodity issue up to a more
> interesting
> level or drop it. The banal underlying interest of those who focus on
> art-money
> is political and generally ultra-conservative, as if one can separate the
> moral
> and spiritual qualities of life from its material reality.  Strangely, the
>
> argument enables "free-market" amoral exploitation because after all, the
> important things, the spiritual things are unsullied by money.
>  wc

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