But the language is not the primary referent for Harris.  Anything at all may 
be 
created as a sign for Harris, a word, a gesture, a sound, a thing, anything, 
and 
it's those created signs that establish the communication (in a given context, 
which always changes because everything is encapsulated in time. Verbal 
language 
is but one form of communication.  For Harris any form of communication may be 
integrated to the others.  Thus pictures can be integrated with words but so 
too 
can words be integrated with pictures; sounds to words, words to sounds, etc. 
 They all work together in different ways and contexts for Harris.  Harris' 
view 
is not the standard linguistics because it rejects the supremacy of the word.  
I 
would like to have your analysis of Harris....maybe his book, The Necessity of 
Artspeak. 

Francis may be partially correct re Harris but she does have a position to 
defend, Peirce and his tokens, etc.

Did you have that martini at the Hilton bar yet...in honor of angst-filled 
artists? 

wc




----- Original Message ----
From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 6:11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Signs of Signs of Signs

But we do tend to translate all communication into language - what Lacan and
Hiedigger posit as a symbolic order - a means to control our understanding of
that aspect of what we experience or imagine that might be shared - in this
manner the symbolic  language of images, as well as things like body language
or certain aspects of music and mathematics might be thought of as being
signifiers whose referent is still another sign system


On 2/8/11 5:16 PM, "William Conger" <[email protected]> wrote:

communication

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