TDMA is a good point.  If the subscriber radio has to send a bandwidth
request and await a reply with an assigned slot in the next frame before it
can send actual data, it would add an extra ~240 ms.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:05 PM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Subscriber uplink is likely using some sort of TDMA - those protocols are
> very difficult to keep efficient when you have hundreds of users in a
> channel, weather considerations, priority classes and 240ms latency from
> all clients to the headend. Adding 20-200ms for that is probably
> reasonable. Also you probably can't internally route on the network to go
> to the backbone link closest to the desired internet host - likely
> everything comes out of one satellite uplink location that adds its own
> latency to hosts that are located on the other side of the country.
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:28 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Lesseeee  22,400 x 2 /186000= 240 mS one way.
>> So 480 mS ping RT under perfect conditions.
>>
>> But in real life it is twice that.  No idea why.  Perhaps they are using
>> another satellite connection for backbone feed.
>>
>> *From:* castarritt
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2018 9:22 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats
>>
>> It is the ~23,000mi orbit geostationary birds that kill latency.  When a
>> ping to a terrestrial server has to travel >90,000mi, the latency will
>> never be better than half a second.  Musk wants to do a large constellation
>> of low orbit birds.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:18 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/3/18 8:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> > Latency still sucks. 700-800 ms if there is no congestion.
>>> Multi-second
>>> > latency if there is congestion.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Time for some quantum entanglement.
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