Hmmm, where we like to locate gear typically finds winds into 70-80 mph. Wind does really interesting things to water at those speeds..

On 9/17/18 5:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
Wind & rain can go "up" in hurricanes and other high wind/rain conditions. Especially if you're at the top of a hill or mountain.

We have that all the time around here, even without hurricanes.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 9/17/2018 5:03 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
How does water enter the unit through the Ethernet port?  The Ethernet port is about the lowest part of the unit and would require water to flow upwards.

On Sep 17, 2018, at 16:53, Mike Meluskey <m...@broadband.vi <mailto:m...@broadband.vi>> wrote:

Water entering the units, primarily through the Ethernet ports.
$5 worth of gasket material would have engineered it correctly.

On 17 Sep 2018, at 19:43, Mike Hammett wrote:

    What kind of failures?



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    *From: *"Mike Meluskey" <m...@broadband.vi
    <mailto:m...@broadband.vi>>
    *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Sent: *Monday, September 17, 2018 6:34:13 PM
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    I was one of Ubiquiti’s first customers, their SR wireless cards
    that
    plugged into MT RB532.
    The lawsuit combined with the AF24’s 95% failure rate in the
    Hurricanes (compared to the 0% failure of Ceragon IP-20 and 5%
    Cambium
    450m) have put Ubiquiti on our former vendor list.

    On 17 Sep 2018, at 18:14, Robert Andrews wrote:

    > +100
    >
    > On 09/17/2018 02:36 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
    >> Being as Ubiquiti has decided to go down the frivolous lawsuit
    path
    >> as their business model i've decided to never use any Ubiquiti
    >> products or services in my business model.
    >>
    >> The only way for me to change my business model to include
    Ubiquiti
    >> would be for them to change their business model.
    >>
    >> Suing your customers and inflicting our industry with harm
    puts you
    >> outside of my vendor list.
    >>
    >> Also saying "but if you want to talk about products or
    anything other
    >> than the lawsuit, feel free to reach out to me privately." is
    kind of
    >> like Ford in the 1970's saying "if you want to talk about
    anything
    >> else besides exploding Pintos, feel free to reach out to me
    >> privately."  The lawsuit is both a symptom and a cause to
    problems at
    >> Ubiquiti and you can't just brush the elephant in the room
    under the
    >> rug.
    >>
    >> 2 cents
    >>
    >> -Sean
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:28 AM Cameron Crum
    <cc...@murcevilo.com <mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>
    >> <mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >>     In the interest of full disclosure, for those that don't
    know,
    >> and
    >>     given the current environment, when I joined the group I
    had my
    >> own
    >>     company (still do, just not doing much with it currently),
    but
    >> now
    >>     also work for ubnt although I am not here to shill for
    them nor
    >> will
    >>     I involve myself in discussions about them unless I see
    something
    >>     grossly in error. I would actually rather keep that side of
    >> things
    >>     separate from this group as I value the relationships here
    above
    >> any
    >>     employment scenario. My job at ubnt is actually to engage with
    >>     operators and try to find a better way to create and maintain
    >>     relationships with them. I hope to take all the past
    failures and
    >>     criticisms and present them with a plan on how to be
    better at
    >> that
    >>     side of things. I actually prefer to hear the bad stuff as
    that
    >> is
    >>     what I can use to help change things, hopefully. I don't want
    >> this
    >>     to turn into a discussion about the company, but if you
    want to
    >> talk
    >>     about products or anything other than the lawsuit, feel
    free to
    >>     reach out to me privately. I just don't want to seem like the
    >> enemy
    >>     lurker.
    >>
    >>     Best,
    >>
    >>     Cameron
    >>
    >>     On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bill Prince
    >> <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
    >>     <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >>         Likewise. I hope that he is lurking in incognito mode at
    >> least.
    >>
    >>
    >>         bp
    >>         <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>
    >>         On 9/15/2018 8:44 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
    >>>         Yes, he is missed.
    >>>
    >>>         On Saturday, September 15, 2018, <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    >>>         <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>             Harass, welcome.
    >>>             I hope for the day to see Ken Hohof show up.
    >>>             *From:* Mathew Howard
    >>>             *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 5:58 PM
    >>>             *To:* AFMUG
    >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
    >>>             Well, it would only be new lurkers that would get
    outed,
    >>> I
    >>>             assume... but yeah, if all we're seeing is an email
    >>>             address, that can be pretty anonymous anyway.
    >>>             I'm not sure what good it would really do us
    though...
    >>>           other than give us an opportunity to harass new people.
    >>>             On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:11 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>                 Probably best to not out the lurkers. There are
    >>> about
    >>>                 500 list members but only about 10% post.
    >>>                 *From:* Mathew Howard
    >>>                 *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:03 PM
    >>>                 *To:* AFMUG
    >>>                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription
    notification
    >>>                 I assume most of the subscribers to this list
    never
    >>>                 actually post anything. It might be kind of
    >>>                 interesting to see who's watching us...
    >>>                 I imagine there are some people that wouldn't
    like
    >>> it,
    >>>                 but if they aren't going to every post anything
    >>>                 anyway, do we care?
    >>>                 On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM David Coudron
    >>>                 <david.coud...@advantenon.com
    <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>                     I think enough information is shared
    feely in
    >>> this
    >>>                     group to warrant folks being identified as
    >>>                     recipients of the information. If I were
    signing
    >>>                     up, I don’t think it would be
    unreasonable to
    >>> be
    >>>                     identified as being a part of the list
    given the
    >>>                     value of the discussions on the list.
    >>>
    >>>                     Regards,
    >>>
    >>>                     David Coudron
    >>>
    >>>                     *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf
    >>> Of
    >>>                     *Adam Moffett
    >>>                     *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:34 PM
    >>>                     *To:* af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    >>>                     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription
    >>> notification
    >>>
    >>>                     A manufacturer rep might prefer to
    quietly lurk
    >>>                     and observe....or a government rep.
    >>>
    >>>                     Nobody is entitled to//privacy in a public
    >>> forum,
    >>>                     but I'm sure some would prefer it.
    >>>
    >>>                     -Adam
    >>>
    >>>                     On 9/14/2018 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> xx...@xxxx.xxx <mailto:xx...@xxxx.xxx> has been successfully
    >>>                         subscribed to AF.
    >>>
    >>>                         I am thinking of posting this when new
    >>> people
    >>>                         join.
    >>>
    >>>                         Or do new list subscribers deserve to
    remain
    >>>                         incognito until they out themselves?
    >>>
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