What kind of failures?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meluskey" <m...@broadband.vi> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:34:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification I was one of Ubiquiti’s first customers, their SR wireless cards that plugged into MT RB532. The lawsuit combined with the AF24’s 95% failure rate in the Hurricanes (compared to the 0% failure of Ceragon IP-20 and 5% Cambium 450m) have put Ubiquiti on our former vendor list. On 17 Sep 2018, at 18:14, Robert Andrews wrote: > +100 > > On 09/17/2018 02:36 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >> Being as Ubiquiti has decided to go down the frivolous lawsuit path >> as their business model i've decided to never use any Ubiquiti >> products or services in my business model. >> >> The only way for me to change my business model to include Ubiquiti >> would be for them to change their business model. >> >> Suing your customers and inflicting our industry with harm puts you >> outside of my vendor list. >> >> Also saying "but if you want to talk about products or anything other >> than the lawsuit, feel free to reach out to me privately." is kind of >> like Ford in the 1970's saying "if you want to talk about anything >> else besides exploding Pintos, feel free to reach out to me >> privately." The lawsuit is both a symptom and a cause to problems at >> Ubiquiti and you can't just brush the elephant in the room under the >> rug. >> >> 2 cents >> >> -Sean >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:28 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com >> <mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com>> wrote: >> >> In the interest of full disclosure, for those that don't know, >> and >> given the current environment, when I joined the group I had my >> own >> company (still do, just not doing much with it currently), but >> now >> also work for ubnt although I am not here to shill for them nor >> will >> I involve myself in discussions about them unless I see something >> grossly in error. I would actually rather keep that side of >> things >> separate from this group as I value the relationships here above >> any >> employment scenario. My job at ubnt is actually to engage with >> operators and try to find a better way to create and maintain >> relationships with them. I hope to take all the past failures and >> criticisms and present them with a plan on how to be better at >> that >> side of things. I actually prefer to hear the bad stuff as that >> is >> what I can use to help change things, hopefully. I don't want >> this >> to turn into a discussion about the company, but if you want to >> talk >> about products or anything other than the lawsuit, feel free to >> reach out to me privately. I just don't want to seem like the >> enemy >> lurker. >> >> Best, >> >> Cameron >> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Bill Prince >> <part15...@gmail.com >> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Likewise. I hope that he is lurking in incognito mode at >> least. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 9/15/2018 8:44 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>> Yes, he is missed. >>> >>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, <ch...@wbmfg.com >>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Harass, welcome. >>> I hope for the day to see Ken Hohof show up. >>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 5:58 PM >>> *To:* AFMUG >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification >>> Well, it would only be new lurkers that would get outed, >>> I >>> assume... but yeah, if all we're seeing is an email >>> address, that can be pretty anonymous anyway. >>> I'm not sure what good it would really do us though... >>> other than give us an opportunity to harass new people. >>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:11 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> Probably best to not out the lurkers. There are >>> about >>> 500 list members but only about 10% post. >>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:03 PM >>> *To:* AFMUG >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification >>> I assume most of the subscribers to this list never >>> actually post anything. It might be kind of >>> interesting to see who's watching us... >>> I imagine there are some people that wouldn't like >>> it, >>> but if they aren't going to every post anything >>> anyway, do we care? >>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM David Coudron >>> <david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think enough information is shared feely in >>> this >>> group to warrant folks being identified as >>> recipients of the information. If I were signing >>> up, I don’t think it would be unreasonable to >>> be >>> identified as being a part of the list given the >>> value of the discussions on the list. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> David Coudron >>> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf >>> Of >>> *Adam Moffett >>> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:34 PM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription >>> notification >>> >>> A manufacturer rep might prefer to quietly lurk >>> and observe....or a government rep. >>> >>> Nobody is entitled to//privacy in a public >>> forum, >>> but I'm sure some would prefer it. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> On 9/14/2018 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> >>> xx...@xxxx.xxx has been successfully >>> subscribed to AF. >>> >>> I am thinking of posting this when new >>> people >>> join. >>> >>> Or do new list subscribers deserve to remain >>> incognito until they out themselves? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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