White=neutral, green=ground, black=hot, red=hot, blue=hot, yellow=hot,
everything except white and green = hot.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:20 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

And then you run into the electrician that looks at black and thinks 
"LOAD"...   and white  "NEUTRAL"...   ARGGGHHH!!!

On 04/10/2019 02:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> This I like.
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:57 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question My rule for -48 plants 
> is we label the - side -48 and the + side RET.
> Then I get a hammer and beat "positive is positive and negative is 
> negative" into my techs heads.  I also like to do Black for RET and 
> white for -48.
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:49 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     There's an IEC standard where you use +blue and -gray for a -V DC
>     system.
>     I'm sure we can find a document somewhere saying -Red for a -V DC
>     system.
>     I read a book when I was around 10 or 11 that said red was positive,
>     and
>     that stuck with me forever.
>     Then I learned about AC where red was a second hot when you need 2
>     phases or a 3-way circuit.
> 
>     When you get multiple DC circuits in one box it seems more dangerous
to
>     follow "standard" colors than not to.
> 
>     So I'm not gonna bag on anybody for preferring one way or another as
>     long as they're self consistent.  Some future generation might thank
>     you
>     for putting a label somewhere that says "+" or "-".
>     When you get into someone else's box, Red is just a color, and you
>     better get your multimeter out and check.  Assume makes an ass out of
u
>     and me.  Mostly me.  It also blows up your equipment and trips
>     breakers.  I guess if someone labeled a wire as "+" I'd be more likely
>     to believe it, but you never know who came after and thought it was
>     wrong and decided to "fix" it.
> 
>     I'm not trying to lecture the EE about electricity.  Just shouting at
>     the wind I guess.
> 
> 
>     On 4/10/2019 4:16 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>      > I have a couple sites where I used purple or blue for -48, but I
>     have spools
>      > of red/black zipcord that I use a lot, and I assign red to voltage
>      > independent of polarity, so that black is ground.  Then even if I
>     use single
>      > wires, I make red voltage and black return in order to be
consistent.
>      >
>      > I think it would be even more confusing to have red be ground and
>     black
>      > be-48V.  Especially at mixed voltage sites that also have +24V.
>      >
>      >
>      > -----Original Message-----
>      > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>      > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 3:08 PM
>      > To: af@af.afmug.com
>      > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question
>      >
>      > Some people use red for negative on -48V systems.
>      > I've got a -48V Alvarion Wimax thingamabob with a red and black
>     pigtail
>      > coming out the back and the red is clearly labeled negative.
>      >
>      > So yeah, can't go by color unless you put that color there.
>      >
>      >
>      > On 4/8/2019 3:31 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:
>      >> Turns out the whole shelter's bus was wired backwards when we
>     got it. Red
>      > is negative and black is positive. Not sure what the ground is
>     relative to,
>      > not sure it really matters at this point but I'll check that out
>     when I go
>      > out there later myself.
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