Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel
basis to get any traction that might be available instead of blind
power. Supposedly.
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 12:49:37 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
With the torque of electric motors, probably no snow tires in the
world would be enough, maybe convert to tracks.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert
*Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 10:59 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for a winch. But
that with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon
with it... Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and
nothing to block snow under the body, so it would slide on top
easier. It might just make a pretty good snow machine!
On 11/22/19 7:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The
extra motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on
mileage (or as much as you might think). You can see this in the
various models S, X, and Y; more motors doesn't really impact range
all that much. I think this is because just because you have more
power, it still takes about the same amount of power to go X miles
per hour.
The metric for efficiency is MPGe. The EPA has decreed that
~~33.5KWh is approximately equal energy-wise to 1 gallon of gas. So,
for example, the latest firmware version of the Model 3 with a 60KWh
battery goes ~~ 250 miles. That nets out to ~~ 140 MPGe
(250/(60/33.5)).
We don't have enough information for the cybertruck yet to do that
calculation (or do we?). ICE trucks (half tons anyway) are doing
good to get 20 MPG these days. The diesel variety can get into the
high 20s (26-28 zone).
I was surprised to see the towing capacity with a unibody. There
would have to be some serious reinforcement going on to attach a
weight distribution hitch with that kind of weight.
bp
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On 11/22/2019 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long
as the performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as
promised, I care much less about how it appears.
That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k
to have AWD.
I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for a
truck." Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't
seen what the electric ATV costs.
I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more
motors shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's
happening with the battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
shouldn't make it faster, so what's up with the extra motors?
I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my
daily driver because I can always get something from the farm. I
just want it to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even
the 14k towing would be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how easy is it to
add (or get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it
available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of
tools for a work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose that
could still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or
110 kw to meet their advertised performance numbers.
Weight would be nice to know as well.
I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably
prefer the Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out.
What's the "mpg" compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
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*Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was
everyone suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your
pre-orders?
I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an
El Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I
expected when I heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
truck. It sounds like the 3 motor version will indeed be fast,
but how big a market is there for a fast, expensive, ugly
truck? Maybe more than I realize.
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