I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for $30k,  Especially
with options.  There's no way they're doing a 10%+ discount for you or
anyone else with a single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see
the bill of sale.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is way too much.   We
> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago for $30k... outfitted
> well.
>
> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the
> > performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as promised, I
> > care much less about how it appears.
> >
> > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k to have
> > AWD.
> >
> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for a truck."
> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't seen what the
> > electric ATV costs.
> >
> > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more motors
> > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's happening with the
> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries shouldn't make it faster, so
> > what's up with the extra motors?
> >
> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my daily
> > driver because I can always get something from the farm. I just want it
> > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even the 14k towing would
> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
> >
> > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs...  how easy is it to add (or
> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
> >
> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it
> > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of tools for a
> > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
> >
> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose that could
> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or 110 kw to meet
> > their advertised performance numbers.
> >
> > Weight would be nice to know as well.
> >
> > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably prefer the
> > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out. What's the "mpg"
> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
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> > I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd.  Was everyone
> > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place your pre-orders?
> >
> > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El
> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It certainly was not what I expected when I
> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric truck.  It sounds like
> > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how big a market is there
> > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?  Maybe more than I realize.
> >
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