I'm pretty sure Tesla has an option you can turn on to get updates sooner,
or let it wait until it feels like updating... I don't think mine got the
last major update until at least a few weeks after it was released.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 5:27 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
wrote:
> & unfortunately, you cannot decide to wait till version 2 comes out, if
> they decide to release a 1.1test, you get it... At least that's what my
> buddy was telling (whining) me...
>
> On 11/22/2019 03:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > You have to be aware of the firmware version when talking about a Tesla.
> > The firmware is more important than the model year because they are
> > updating it fairly often.
> >
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> > On 11/22/2019 1:02 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
> >> They have that ability and do it. BUT the programming has had some
> >> serious errors for different conditions. When the X first came out
> >> there were a bunch of people stuck at Tahoe with them. Now, a bunch
> >> of them came up with tires very much not suited for the conditions and
> >> no amount of slippage control would fix that, but there were
> >> complaints from people who actually had snow tires on. I also heard
> >> that situation is much improved.. Even with the much lower S.
> >>
> >> On 11/22/2019 11:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>> Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel
> >>> basis to get any traction that might be available instead of blind
> >>> power. Supposedly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 12:49:37 PM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>
> >>> With the torque of electric motors, probably no snow tires in the
> >>> world would be enough, maybe convert to tracks.
> >>>
> >>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 10:59 AM
> >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>
> >>> It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for a winch. But
> >>> that with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon
> >>> with it... Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and
> >>> nothing to block snow under the body, so it would slide on top
> >>> easier. It might just make a pretty good snow machine!
> >>>
> >>> On 11/22/19 7:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The
> >>> extra motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on
> >>> mileage (or as much as you might think). You can see this in the
> >>> various models S, X, and Y; more motors doesn't really impact range
> >>> all that much. I think this is because just because you have more
> >>> power, it still takes about the same amount of power to go X miles
> >>> per hour.
> >>>
> >>> The metric for efficiency is MPGe. The EPA has decreed that
> >>> ~~33.5KWh is approximately equal energy-wise to 1 gallon of gas.
> So,
> >>> for example, the latest firmware version of the Model 3 with a
> 60KWh
> >>> battery goes ~~ 250 miles. That nets out to ~~ 140 MPGe
> >>> (250/(60/33.5)).
> >>>
> >>> We don't have enough information for the cybertruck yet to do that
> >>> calculation (or do we?). ICE trucks (half tons anyway) are doing
> >>> good to get 20 MPG these days. The diesel variety can get into the
> >>> high 20s (26-28 zone).
> >>>
> >>> I was surprised to see the towing capacity with a unibody. There
> >>> would have to be some serious reinforcement going on to attach a
> >>> weight distribution hitch with that kind of weight.
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>>
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/22/2019 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long
> >>> as the performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as
> >>> promised, I care much less about how it appears.
> >>>
> >>> That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the
> $50k
> >>> to have AWD.
> >>>
> >>> I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for
> a
> >>> truck." Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't
> >>> seen what the electric ATV costs.
> >>>
> >>> I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more
> >>> motors shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's
> >>> happening with the battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
> >>> shouldn't make it faster, so what's up with the extra motors?
> >>>
> >>> I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my
> >>> daily driver because I can always get something from the farm.
> I
> >>> just want it to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even
> >>> the 14k towing would be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how easy is it to
> >>> add (or get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
> >>>
> >>> I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it
> >>> available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of
> >>> tools for a work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
> >>>
> >>> I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose
> that
> >>> could still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or
> >>> 110 kw to meet their advertised performance numbers.
> >>>
> >>> Weight would be nice to know as well.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably
> >>> prefer the Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out.
> >>> What's the "mpg" compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com
> >
> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
> >>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>
> >>> I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was
> >>> everyone suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your
> >>> pre-orders?
> >>>
> >>> I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between
> an
> >>> El Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I
> >>> expected when I heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
> >>> truck. It sounds like the 3 motor version will indeed be fast,
> >>> but how big a market is there for a fast, expensive, ugly
> >>> truck? Maybe more than I realize.
> >>>
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