we arent doing the Ls because as best I can tell theyre pretty much a 2k AP without intelligent filtering. seemed like a net loss to me
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > Probably. and I suppose the reason for not supporting both, like the 1000 > was cost. > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:18 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> With the 3000L at 29V you can power it from an SM with an Aux port. I'm >> guessing that's the underlying reason. >> >> >> On 1/23/2020 4:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> >> That must've been an early spec sheet... it also say 802.3at compliant, >> which is also not so... but both of those things are true for the 3000. >> >> Yeah, 24v is nice sometimes, but it would've been a lot nicer if it just >> worked on 22-56v, like the ePMP 1000. It's also annoying that the 3000 is >> 48v only, and the 3000L is 24v only, which makes it more complicated if you >> put up a 3000L and need to upgrade to a full 3000 later on... or if you >> want to change a 1000 that's running on 48v for a 3000L. >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:33 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think I would have noticed it.....but I'll look at it tomorrow when I >>> get to the office. I will send a pic as proof of the existence or >>> nonexistence of an SFP on the actual 3000L. Currently it is Schrodinger's >>> SFP. >>> >>> >>> On 1/22/2020 9:18 PM, Josh Baird wrote: >>> >>> Where? It says it has a 100/1000BaseT ethernet interface: >>> >>> >>> https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SS_ePMP_3000L_11182019.pdf >>> >>> >>> Erm - it also says it only accepts 29V PoE. The ePMP 3000 (non-L) >>> supports 56V. Did they really make the ePMP3kL only support 24-29V? If >>> so, that is pretty dumb. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:13 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Spec sheet says 3000L has an sfp. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:24 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The 3000 has an SFP, the 3000L does not. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:54 PM Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It’s got an sfp in it >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:57 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Copper. 3000L doesn't have fiber. >>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 4:55 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you seeing Ethernet problems with fiber connections as well, or >>>>>>> just the copper? We put up an EPMP 3000 early last year. It had >>>>>>> Ethernet >>>>>>> problems for about the first 3 or 4 weeks of putting it up, but has >>>>>>> seemed >>>>>>> fine since then. This was on Copper connection. I was just having >>>>>>> Ethernet problems in general, 1g, 100m, 10m. It would instantly >>>>>>> negotiate >>>>>>> the speed, but have lots of packet loss. I attributed it to corrosion >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the Cat5 pins that summer temperature fluctuations cleared up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 2:45 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It was 1 link at 0.9 mile on a +30 EIRP DFS band. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a test. Test failed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 3:41 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Technically you wouldn't see any performance gains over a 2000 >>>>>>> unless you're hitting 256qam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's the distance of the links? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Matt Hoppes < >>>>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No but Chris and I had a theory it was hot heat related... that >>>>>>>> kills >>>>>>>> that theory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/22/20 1:17 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>>> > Binghamton, NY just north of you. Usually in the 30's this time >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> > year, but it's been more like in the teens for several days. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Did you see a temperature correlation? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 1/22/2020 12:49 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>>>>> >> I purchased a bunch of ePMP3000 (not L) and have honestly had >>>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>>> >> but issues with them since trying to deploy... including >>>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>>> >> instances at multiple sites with the inability to get Gig to >>>>>>>> link... >>>>>>>> >> but at the office it's fine... swap to a Ubiquiti AC radio and >>>>>>>> it's a >>>>>>>> >> Gig on the tower. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity what temperature are you at wherever you are >>>>>>>> right now? >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On 1/22/20 12:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> On the first unit we tried yeah. GigE worked in the office, >>>>>>>> but on >>>>>>>> >>> the tower it would only run at 100BaseT. Our guys fought with >>>>>>>> it for >>>>>>>> >>> a couple of days. Brought it back to the office and it did a >>>>>>>> gig in >>>>>>>> >>> the office no problem. I assume it's related to the cable >>>>>>>> length, >>>>>>>> >>> but maybe some other factor matters. The switch at the tower >>>>>>>> was a >>>>>>>> >>> Mikrotik CRS 2xx of some type. Not sure if that matters. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> In any case, the second unit we plugged in at the tower went >>>>>>>> right to >>>>>>>> >>> a gig no problem.....except that one died today after being in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>> air for 4 days. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Maybe I just rolled snake eyes or something, but it has me >>>>>>>> wondering >>>>>>>> >>> about reliability. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> The price and feature set is right so I had big plans for >>>>>>>> these. I >>>>>>>> >>> probably won't try them again unless something changes. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> -Adam >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> On 1/22/2020 12:39 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> WAIT WAIT WAIT.... You ALSO are having issues linking at >>>>>>>> Gigabit? >>>>>>>> >>>> That's interesting, because myself and someone else are also >>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> >>>> this issue and Cambium has sworn until they are blue in the >>>>>>>> face >>>>>>>> >>>> there is no issue. >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> On 1/22/20 11:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>> So I tried an ePMP 3000L. >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> Real world performance is ultimately about the same as ePMP >>>>>>>> 2000. >>>>>>>> >>>>> QoS doesn't work properly. SM was re registering with a >>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>> >>>>> minimal amount of noise. I had 27 DL SNR and 17 UL SNR on a >>>>>>>> DFS >>>>>>>> >>>>> band......it's not going to get a lot better than that where >>>>>>>> I am. >>>>>>>> >>>>> Not in real life anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> First AP wouldn't link at 1Gig on a long cable (but would on >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> >>>>> short cable). Tried a second AP and that one worked at 1Gig, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> >>>>> then died 4 days later. >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> I got a lot of mileage out of the ePMP 2000 and the PMP450, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> >>>>> this new product does not currently impress. 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