Yeah, well, if they did actually have a radio set to use 3723-3732, I don't have much sympathy for them anyway. I suppose, one could accidentally get international radios, and then accidentally, set it to the wrong channel... but most likely, they were either completely aware they were using a channel they weren't supposed to be on, and didn't care, or they hadn't bothered to learn enough about the rules to know they were supposed to be doing.
On the other hand, if they were just running it at the top end of the band, and it was causing too much out of band noise for whatever reason, that's a different story. There are radios out there (like Baicells, for example), that will let you use frequencies below 3650, where I could see that easily happening by accident, but I don't know of any radios sold for US market that allow you to go above 3700mhz. On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:05 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have less sympathy for them if they went out of their way to get an > international AP because the US model wouldn't let them cheat. It's harder > to believe it was just ignorance at that point. > > I knew a guy who used to set all his Ubqiuiti's to "Hong Kong" so he could > use DFS bands without DFS and ignore the EIRP limit. I'm like bruh you > can't even pretend that was an accident. > > > > On 1/24/2020 2:40 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Yeah, you're right... I think what I was thinking of is that the spectrum > analyser can scan that range. I wouldn't be surprised if they were using > some ROW radios, it looks like the PMP450 does come in a 3.55-3.8ghz > variety. > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> US models of the 450 definitely won't let you do that. >> >> On 1/24/2020 10:18 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> >> I checked some of their registrations, and it looks like they're mostly >> PMP450 and a few Ubiquiti radios. It's been awhile since I've done anything >> with Canopy 3.65ghz stuff, but it seems to me like you might be able to set >> them that high... or maybe they have some non-US radios... >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 7:01 AM Dennis Burgess via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Wonder what gear they were using. ☹ That allowed them to transmit that >>> high? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >>> >>> >>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, >>> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >>> >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>> >>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>> >>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> >>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Tim Hardy >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:21 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement actions - unauthorized operation >>> in 3650 - 3700 MHz band >>> >>> >>> >>> According to the Notice of Violation, they were found to be operating on >>> 3723 - 3732 MHz which is a clear violation of 1.903 and you’re right that >>> this is how they got caught. No question that had they not interfered with >>> the ground station, this wouldn’t have come up. Once the FCC finds one >>> thing, they’re going to look at everything else and that’s how the >>> unregistered locations ended up part of this. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 7:25 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> There seem to be 2 issues, one is unregistered locations which seems >>> kind of petty, the other is transmitting above 3.7 GHz. I’m going to >>> assume the second one got them in trouble and led to finding the first one? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:43 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement actions - unauthorized operation >>> in 3650 - 3700 MHz band >>> >>> >>> >>> The 320 you could go to at least 3695 on 10mhz. Plus the oob so if it >>> was low 3700. But jerkoffs like that that don't even make a cursory check >>> for earth stations you never know what they've done. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 5:03 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jamming C band CATV... >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:59 PM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement actions - unauthorized operation >>> in 3650 - 3700 MHz band >>> >>> >>> >>> It's interesting that the signal they were interfering with was in the >>> 3700-4200mhz band. I wonder what they were doing... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:24 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Isnt that the first 3ghz one? >>> >>> >>> >>> I wish that more people had been nailed, its said other "license" >>> holders had no recourse, it took a fixed station to be interfered with >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:35 PM Tim Hardy <thardy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> BREVARD WIRELESS, INC. DBA FLORIDA HIGH SPEED INTERNET, LICENSEE OF >>> STATION WQMJ660. Brevard Wireless, Inc. dba Florida High Speed Internet >>> agrees to $16,000 settlement and compliance plan resolving investigation >>> into unauthorized operation in the 3650-3700MHz band . Action by: >>> Deputy Chief, Enforcement Bureau. Adopted: 2020-01-22 by Order/Consent >>> Decree. (DA No. 20-46). EB. 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