I do enjoy sandwiches....
On 1/27/2020 3:30 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Not wrong, just not complete(ish)
a "grandfathered" NN is not grandfathered simply by being there. there
was a process we had to go through, most of us missed the window
because the deadline had passed before we knew we had to.
"grandfathered" NN has already clearly been marked for removal, in the
short term, from the protections/exemptions from SAS compatibility. I
wasnt directing the comment to you specifically, but the broader
conversation.
It was the sandwiches btw, I just really liked the sandwiches.
But the 450 lady was there, 450 being the only Approved product at the
time, None of the answers were guesses, they were clear answers or " I
will check on this" from people who arent going to their bosses, who
are going to their vendor, who are going to a manufacturer. these
answers will come back from winnforum, or FCC, pretty much the only
two places on the planet where you can get an answer. Cambium has the
inside track in being the manufacturer involved from day one, if they
have clarification need, they will get them, promptly, and have a
little pushing power to get modifications in that make sense.
but mostly the sandwiches
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:28 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What did I get wrong?
On 1/27/2020 2:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Cambium matt...
This is why we need more classes from you guys
just this thread alone, look how much unintentional
disinformation is here
this is all over the industry
The real time classroom session with people who actually know,
because theyre on a first name basis with people at FCC and
winnforum is necessary
half the CBRS webinars ive sat in on gave half answers, no
answers or wrong answers
Its going to destroy the industry reputation
PUHLEEEEEAAAAASSSSEE
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:20 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In CBRS you'll get higher EIRP, you'll no longer have the
+2dbm Tx limit
on mobile devices, and you'll have access to 3x the
spectrum. Overall
you'd much rather operate under the CBRS rules
The main reason a person might prefer NN is they don't have
to pay for
the SAS.
In theory you could argue that a grandfathered NN license
protects you
from interference from a CBRS operator, but a person better
make sure
they don't have any of those "bodies in the trunk" if they
try to call
the FCC for help with that. We'd also likely be stuck with
old equipment
in that case. If we use the advantages of the new rules then
it's hard
to argue that we should be protected by the old license, and
if we're
using old Wimax gear with our old license then we'll be less
competitive
than someone with modern electronics, another 100mhz, and 8
or 10 more
db in the link budget.
In my opinion NN is dead already, regardless of what year a
specific
license expires.
RIP NN
On 1/27/2020 11:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Apparently there was a window of time where new or renewed
licenses got expiration dates out to like 2025. See for
example WQVI696. I'm a little unclear on whether all Part 96
equipment becomes illegal this April regardless of whether
your NN license expires. Ours was renewed in October 2018 and
expires April 2020, so it's moot unless we get an extension.
But I know at least one WISP that thinks they have lots of
time because their license doesn't expire until 2024.
>
> That's another bizarre feature of how the FCC has handled
this. A license acquired or renewed in 2018 expires in 2020,
but one acquired in 2015 runs the full 10 years to 2025?
That's just random. How can they not grant extensions if
some licenses still have 5 years to run?
>
>
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<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of David Coudron
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
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> Yes, that is our understanding.
>
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<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
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> On 1/27/20 7:20 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> yep, and a self fulfilling failure on the part of the
FCC. The FCC
>> looked at the registered CPE and decided that WISP’s were
not using
>> the band without ever considering how badly they fubared
the entire
>> registration process.
>>
>> You WISP’s don’t need an extension, you didn’t use the
band. Uh, yeah.
>>
>
> Is the NN shutdown date still April 17, 2020?
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