So yeah like he said you can measure the elevation angle pretty well with a cheap tool.  You align the first dish's azimuth to a landmark and dead reckoning.   You peak the second dish, then go back to peak the first one.

If the tool lets you nail the azimuth on the first dish without re-climbing the tower then it's worth every penny.  Does it?  Just wondering.

If you use backhauls with the BNC voltage output and get the BNC to banana plug adapter then you get realtime feedback to peak the signal with.  I always thought the scope thing was a good idea, but never did get to use one.



On 2/19/2020 12:08 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
We have one and it's very nice. We only use it to aim sectors and horns. For backhaul dishes, there no need to use it in my opinion since we use landmarks to get the aiming started. With sectors, there's no way to aim it like a dish so this tool is very helpful.

It should be under $4600 as that's what we paid for it new.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 10:58 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    I had a project, still have a project to build one.
    Not trivial because the baseline between the two GPS receivers is
    very short.
    Maybe I will finish it someday.
    If you buy one, let me “borrow it for a few days”...
    Elevation is very simple.  You can buy a cheap electronic level
    from any hardware store to nail the elevation.
    Then all you gotta do is sweep and peak.
    I have not talked to anyone that has used one of these things.
    If you can find a landmark along the path and use a scope for
    azimuth you will be dead on for a lot less money.
    *From:* Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:50 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Advice on spending
    I got approval from the boss to order a smart aligner. Ive been
    looking at this for a while, particularly with the need for
    accuracy in CBRS. Not looking to use it at customer sites, just
    backhauls and access points.
    We have historically never been verifiably accurate on azimuths,
    probably rolled out pretty bad too. We have had issues with
    contractors not installing sites to spec, and having to go back up
    to turn radios/adjust tilt, etc.
    This will be handy for this year, we are dropping in at least 40
    new access points and 3 or 5 new licensed links in the next few
    months. but then the tool will sit
    Boss said the worst thing to me, "get it if you think its
    necessary". If it were a $1k tool it wouldnt be a question bet we
    are looking at almost 7k on the kit. It meets my accuracy needs,
    but I almost wonder if the convenience outweighs the necessary.
    ant his is over half the cost of a licensed link.
    Knowing my numbers are right in propagation tools holds a lot of
    value. saving maybe an hour getting a tight link aligned here and
    there offsets some cost.
    You old timers, is this a justifiable expenditure based on your
    experience?

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