From the inside…. very little of what WISPA does has much consideration given to the size of the WISP. If anything it’s biased toward the smaller providers, not the large providers. There are some areas where WISPA does have working groups that pay attention to issues that affect larger WISP’s working with programs like CAF, RDOF, etc. to try to make sure that those programs are available to smaller WISPS (and in the grand scheme of things even the largest WISP’s are small). There are also a lot of things that happen in these federal programs that will eventually trickle down to all providers. We are already seeing this in proposals for the updated reporting requirements (the replacement for the current 477 reporting) and testing requirements that we will all likely eventually be stuck with. Not fighting those battles now when they only effect CAF/RDOF/etc. will only hurt us all later.
As far as auction versus non-auction - there was ZERO chance that any of this spectrum was going to be made available without charge. None, Zero, Zilch. It’s wasn’t going to happen. Full Stop. It wasn’t happening under the democratic administration and commission, and it sure as hell isn’t going to happen under a republican administration. Maybe Bernie will help you out. Or he will decide we need to nationalize all these pesky little Internet companies. Mark > On Feb 23, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote: > > Random thoughts.. I always wondered about the difference in wispa membership > price vs the size of your wisp. You have a number of smaller wisps paying > $325 with under 500 subs and those over 10k subs paying 10 times as much a > year. Hard to balance needs of the many when bigger wisps get the same number > of votes as the smaller ones, right? Who do you cater to if you’re wispa? If > it’s the smaller wisps, why would the bigger ones want to pay the larger fees? > > >> On Feb 23, 2020, at 12:43, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> This is what I tried to tell WISPA when they were pushing for spectrum to go >> to auction (EBS included) >> >> but no one listened. They kept saying you'll get credits that will help.... >> Some help >> >> IMHO WISPA is on the wrong path not helping "small" wisp's >> >> Mitch Koep >> >> >> >> On 2/23/2020 11:53 AM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: >>> Our county opening bid is 44k, so assuming you need two clean 20 MHz >>> channels it would be $176k for that, assuming no one else bids it. You >>> would have to put down 88k to start to bid on it. Assuming we get small >>> business and rural credits that would be lowered by at least 25% ,so we >>> will lower it 25%.. Now we are at $132k and 66k to start. >>> >>> Assuming they provide a no interest payment plan it would be $550 a month >>> over the next 10 years. So one way to look is it would be 66k plus 550 a >>> month, but you had to have the 66k so just assume you could get a loan for >>> it all over 10 years. With a 8% interest it would be around $1,600 a >>> month for the next 10 years. Then after that, I would have to pay again, >>> as I would have to renew my lease. >>> >>> It really comes down to "what can you get it for" and what is it good for. >>> 40 MHz of licensed interference free spectrum in a count y is not horrible, >>> and at 1600 a month, I would think I could make that work. I pay more than >>> that for bandwidth so. >>> >>> Of course when a single block is running for 200k that’s a whole different >>> proposition, that I would not think a WISP could make its investment back >>> on. There are quite a few assumptions as well, do you have the cash to put >>> down to try to win? If not, then it’s a non-issue for you. Or can you get >>> a loan for that and see if you can capitalize on getting your licensed >>> channels. Not stating that is good or not, but you have to look at it >>> like that... >>> >>> >>> >>> Dennis Burgess, MikroTik Certified Trainer >>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP >>> Certified >>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- MikroTik & WISP Support Services >>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>> <http://www.towercoverage.com/> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On >>> Behalf Of Dev >>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:30 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105 >>> >>> Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets >>> who would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a >>> bank, assuming their bank knows what spectrum is at all. >>> >>> So their option would be to hope no one bids? >>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> >>>> <mailto:se...@rollernet.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 2/21/20 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>>> look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding credits >>>>> we are eligible for >>>> Which are applied to a winning bid, you still have to wire the FCC the >>>> full amount at the beginning to participate. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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