Is there some kind of special pricing or something? I logged into my Aviat
account, and it's looking more like $7k for a link to me.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes - this is the WTM4800.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> That is an insane value proposition over the AF24HD.
>>
>> Which specific radio, the 10G single band 4800?
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
>>
>> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with
>> dishes and everything.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Good choice Lewis!
>>>
>>> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast!  Been really
>>> amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on
>>> keepin on!!
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it
>>>>> really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can
>>>>> get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that
>>>>> band, so just pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have.
>>>>> If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to consider.
>>>>> Ignitenet an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios are actually
>>>>> shipping yet), have an extra channel at the top end of the band that can
>>>>> get a bit better range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) use... but
>>>>> that's not really going to make a lot of difference at that distance
>>>>> anyway. Ignitenet is the only one with an SFP port, if that matters, and
>>>>> they also have a radio that's capable of 2.5gbps, instead of only 1gpbs...
>>>>> they're also the most expensive of the cheap options. Mikrotik uses a beam
>>>>> forming antenna, so they're about 100000x easier to aim then the 
>>>>> Ignitenets
>>>>> (I believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used their radios yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I
>>>>> think they're all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction at 
>>>>> the
>>>>> same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz licensing
>>>>> (which is pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing that has to be
>>>>> done), then Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. Or you could just
>>>>> stick with AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but considering what
>>>>> they cost, it makes more sense to me to just go with 80ghz at that
>>>>> distance. You could also go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but they're half
>>>>> duplex radios, and I don't think that they can handle a full 2gbps
>>>>> aggregate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess it depends on the 9s you want.
>>>>>> Cheaper is not always better for consistency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No way I would consider AF24HD for this.  You can get 80ghz links for
>>>>>> less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat.  Aviat
>>>>>> probably gives you the best bang for your buck.  Cambium has a new mmWave
>>>>>> product, but I don't know anything about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will take
>>>>>>> all of your 5g spectrum and
>>>>>>> there is the ptp850E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see
>>>>>>> Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their product
>>>>>>> selector returns no matches .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubiquiti has the 24HD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything else I should be aware of?
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