For some reason their test results show 20-40% higher maximum throughput for the 2011 than the CRS125.

I recognize that they have the same CPU and RAM, but there must be more to it.

.....or maybe the test procedure wasn't consistent I suppose.


On 3/11/2020 12:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

CRS125 may be marketed as a “switch”, but CPU and RAM are comparable to several RB series “routers”.  I think RB2011 is one of those.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I relate to "crazy explanations".  A lot of the 2nd rate IT crowd stays employed by not admitting when they don't know something.  Always hit the client or boss with techno babble and they'll think you're smart, meanwhile failure to admit that their inferences have no underlying factual basis prevents them from actually growing.  The worst part is I think most of them actually believe their own BS. </high_horse>

If your client is using the CRS as a router then he'll be disappointed.  It does run RouterOS, but it's clearly marketed as a switch and has clear and well advertised limits on CPU and memory.  It's handy for that one time in 20 when you need your switch to also run an IP tunnel or provide a DHCP relay or some such

That said, yes I've had watchdog resets that go away when you disable connection tracking.  It's not necessarily RAM though because you can actually crash a CCR 1072 with a couple gigs of traffic and connection tracking turned on.  Those have 16GB of RAM and appear to be in no danger of running out of RAM when they die.  We could only guess why.  In any case if you don't need NAT or Mangle rules then you can safely disable connection tracking with no ill effects.  As you say, that might be worth a try on those 4011's.

On 3/10/2020 11:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    I don’t have a lot of 2011’s, but other than one that came with
    one Ethernet port DOA, I don’t think I’ve seen that kind of
    problem on that model.  And mine are outdoors in uncontrolled
    environments.  Well, except for one at my office.

    One just general comment, are you tracking memory utilization
    (like graphing via SNMP)?  I have a weirdo customer who went from
    using Linux computers as routers to using Mikrotiks, I think CRS
    series.  He has his own /24 and gets portscanned like crazy and
    has connection tracking on.  He complains that his Mikrotiks keep
    having to be rebooted or netinstalled and he has all sorts of
    crazy explanations, but I’m convinced he is just running out of
    memory due to his conntrack table filling up.  Not my problem
    though, so I’ve avoided getting sucked into it.

    2011 has I think 128 MB RAM, the heavier duty Mikrotiks have
    somewhere around 1 – 4 GB.  I mean, I’ve still got a few smaller
    routers in my network like 493G and 850Gx2 and I don’t see RAM
    running low, but just tossing it out as a possibility.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:04 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

    Stops handing out IPs and stops passing traffic.

    *From:*Colin Stanners

    *Sent:*Tuesday, March 10, 2020 4:09 PM

    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

    What kind of issue? I haven't heard model-specific bugs with those
    so they should "just work" forever.

    On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 4:57 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        We have been having a similar issue with a RB2011iL-iN .

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Darren Shea
        Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:31 PM
        To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

        I only have one RB4011 in the field, but it seems to have a
        problem a couple
        times a year. I now have it on a remote PDU which can
        power-cycle it when it
        stops responding to pings, but if they come out with a f/w fix
        for this
        problem, I'd be very interested!

        -----Original Message-----
        From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
        Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2020 11:24 AM
        To: Animal Farm
        Subject: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

        This week I've had 2 RB4011 Routers lockup requiring a power
        cycle. They
        were still passing some traffic, but stopped doing things like
        handing
        out DHCP, or responding to SNMP.  And you couldn't log into
        them via
        Winbox or MACNeighbor.

        One was on ROS6.44.3, the other on ROS6.45. Both of them were
        doing
        NAT, whereas most of my Mikrotiks are only routing.  Both of these
        locations have multiple RB4011s, and only the one doing NAT
        locked up.
        Nothing is recorded in the log other than the reboot.  These
        were both
        routers that have been installed for months.  One router
        lockup I can
        attribute to a fluke, but 2 in the same week is worrysome. 
        Has any one
        else noticed anything?

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