My wife subscribes to the NYT, but I don't bother to log in. Just let it start to load the story then stop it before it loads the paywall.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:59 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Paywall... > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:56 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies > > > I don’t know if this will be behind a paywall or not, but it says there > will be several waves until eventually enough people have immunity or there > is a virus or treatment. > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-social-distancing-effect.html > > > > It says “opinion” but it’s by 3 doctors, none of whom is named Oz or Phil. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:50 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies > > > > Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is? > > We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all > international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's > course, or so it seems to me. > > I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the > hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social > isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end > organically as people get sick of staying home? > > > > On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic > > > > The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate > hidden numbers of magnitude > > > > Heres the logic thats completely being ignored > > > > The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been > attributed to flu > > There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated > rates this year > > > > The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of > those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate > to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go > get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising > number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the > very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8 > percent of them actually are. > > > > We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from the > swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there are > less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current > response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet. > > > > Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island infected > now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do we have > a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of indigent > on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having locked up > such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole other OT > rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that having > helped their situation. > > > > Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they > normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's really > just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off what > other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported are > almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than most > of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak than > most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low numbers > at this point. > > > > But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it > certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it > all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point, > and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what > the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in > North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on NPR > this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never) before > we understand the scope of this. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering up. > Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No sanitation > facilities. > > > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies > > > > Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to indicate > that deaths have been incorrectly attributed, > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote: > > the death count is the death count > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
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