im watching deblasio, I do not like this guy. He seems to not have a plan for his demands. I dont think he knows he lost his bid for potus Guys like him are making things so much worse with the incessant chicken littling. Im not sure what he thinks sending everyone to NY is going to do when theres no actual response plan from him. There are big cities around the US. There are small cities suffering too, but apparently people in small towns dont matter. Apparently an entire medical ship, in his eyes is nothing
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:47 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Governor of Texas shuttered every bar and restaurant for a few weeks. Take > it and drive through only. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 3:33 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> The worse it gets, the better behaved we will be. >> >> *From:* castarritt . >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:15 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies >> >> Here is the long term plan: >> >> >> https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf >> >> >> TLDR: >> >> Option 1: Do nothing, and 4+ million Americans die in a few months as the >> healthcare system collapses. >> >> Option 2: Do some quarantining and social distancing to flatten the >> curve, and maybe a million Americans die. >> >> Option 3: Shut down everything to stop the spread. Keep everything shut >> down for ~18 months until everyone is vaccinated. >> >> It looks like we are headed for Option 3 right now. With any luck, we >> might develop some effective treatments for the virus that would lessen the >> death toll of switching to Option 2. Also, they have developed an antibody >> test now, and anyone who tests positive for the antibodies will be safe >> from the virus, and unable to spread it to others, so at least those people >> will be able to go back to work. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is? >>> >>> We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all >>> international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's >>> course, or so it seems to me. >>> >>> I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the >>> hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social >>> isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end >>> organically as people get sick of staying home? >>> >>> >>> On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic >>> >>> The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate >>> hidden numbers of magnitude >>> >>> Heres the logic thats completely being ignored >>> >>> The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been >>> attributed to flu >>> There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated >>> rates this year >>> >>> The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of >>> those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate >>> to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go >>> get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising >>> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the >>> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8 >>> percent of them actually are. >>> >>> We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from >>> the swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there >>> are less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current >>> response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet. >>> >>> Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island >>> infected now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do >>> we have a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of >>> indigent on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having >>> locked up such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole >>> other OT rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that >>> having helped their situation. >>> >>> Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they >>> normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's >>>> really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off >>>> what other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported >>>> are almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than >>>> most of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak >>>> than most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low >>>> numbers at this point. >>>> >>>> But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it >>>> certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it >>>> all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point, >>>> and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what >>>> the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in >>>> North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on >>>>> NPR this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never) >>>>> before we understand the scope of this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering >>>>> up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No >>>>> sanitation facilities. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to >>>>> indicate that deaths have been incorrectly attributed, >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote: >>>>> >>>>> the death count is the death count >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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