Yeah, you can't have businesses closed past then or you're going to have
people revolting (myself included).
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The isolation can not last more than a few weeks, or maybe a month - month
> and a half. At that point, we should have reduced the number of walking
> infections without symptoms, and maybe have the ability to actually test
> for it. After that, it's a crap shoot.
>
>
> bp
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>
> On 3/19/2020 1:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> With "flatten the curve" as your primary tool expected to take years and
> people only able to half pay attention for a few weeks, we'll have to find
> something else.
>
>
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> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:54:45 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>
> The "plan" (no jokes please) seems to be short term isolation to try and
> flatten the curve. With that, all the infected people not having symptoms
> will become immune (to some extent) and no longer be contagious. I don't
> think we can keep people bottled up for more than a few weeks.
>
>
> bp
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>
>
> On 3/19/2020 12:49 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is?
>
> We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all
> international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's
> course, or so it seems to me.
>
> I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the
> hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social
> isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end
> organically as people get sick of staying home?
>
>
> On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic
>
> The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate
> hidden numbers of magnitude
>
> Heres the logic thats completely being ignored
>
> The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been
> attributed to flu
> There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated
> rates this year
>
> The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of
> those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate
> to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go
> get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising
> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the
> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8
> percent of them actually are.
>
> We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from the
> swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there are
> less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current
> response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet.
>
> Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island infected
> now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do we have
> a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of indigent
> on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having locked up
> such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole other OT
> rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that having
> helped their situation.
>
> Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they
> normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's really
>> just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off what
>> other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported are
>> almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than most
>> of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak than
>> most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low numbers
>> at this point.
>>
>> But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it
>> certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it
>> all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point,
>> and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what
>> the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in
>> North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on NPR
>>> this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never) before
>>> we understand the scope of this.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering
>>> up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No
>>> sanitation facilities.
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>>
>>>
>>> Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to indicate
>>> that deaths have been incorrectly attributed,
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> the death count is the death count
>>>
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