We can always talk about lunch.

If you want political discourse there are FB pages that will be happy to host the comments.

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:12 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I have to agree with Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve
into some pretty nasty talk without constraints...  BTDT...

On 04/14/2020 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without breaking lent.

Stock markets going to crash ... lent
Hurricane response ... lent
National preparedness for a pandemic ... lent

Facts still matter, or at least I think they do, and we should be able to talk about them without getting all melty about it.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Lent

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Robert Andrews
    Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM
    To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

    You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.   That would be like
    every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally.   Sorry but
United States MEANS coordination at a national level. They should have set up a means to determine need and then sent what wasn't available to
    nowhere.   Come ON there was no prep for this, nothing at a national
    level.  Our Federal government has been a joke through all this and is
become more so. The CDC sent out initial test kits that the states had
    to go behind their back to determine that they didn't work.   The CDC
had gotten it's pandemic response group removed a year ago. Steve, you
    are about to have the worst of the worst in your location.  I surely
    hope you come out ok, but wouldn't it have been nice to have _some_
    national preparedness?

    On 04/14/2020 10:29 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
     > you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators,
    every state
     > demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need
    them or
     > not. The feds need to stay completely out of the testing game. its
     > literally the governor of each states responsibility to make sure
    he has
     > people in place to make sure systems operate and communicate up
    the chain
     >
     >
     > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
     > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>>
    wrote:
     >
> At the risk of breaking Lent.. I wish we were the United States
     >     instead of the Competing States and Utah could use some of it's
     >     excess capacity to help out elsewhere while they don't need
    it...
     > Seems a waste to not use that capacity while it's there.   Maybe
     >     relax the restrictions and chase down contacts and test to
    see what
     >     the asymptomatic case profile looks like...
     >
     >     On 4/14/20 8:32 AM, Robert wrote:
>> That's some very interesting numbers... And way interesting is
     >>     the ability to perform such good testing...
     >>
     >>     On 4/14/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
     >>>     From Utah:
     >>>     SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re
    seeing
     >>>     a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and they don’t
     >>>     know why.
     >>>     “That’s the million-dollar question. We’re really trying to
>>> figure out,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, epidemiologist with the Utah
     >>>     Department of Health.
>>> Utah reported 60 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on Monday — a
     >>>     smaller rise compared to the previous several days. The new
    cases
     >>>     bring the state’s tally up to 2,363 confirmed cases out of
    45,787
     >>>     people tested.
     >>>     An additional 1,500 people have been tested since Sunday,
     >>>     according to the Utah Department of Health. The state is
    capable
     >>>     of administering up to 5,000 tests per day.
     >>>
     >>
     >>
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