There must be some ulterior motive here there is no way that the FCC out of the goodness of their heart provided more unlicensed spectrum to the common man/small business.
So the question is who can utilize this spectrum? On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:35 PM Tim Hardy <thardy...@gmail.com> wrote: > FCC has total authority over these bands. > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:29 PM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> How can the FCC make spectrum available for un-licensed without an act of >> Congress? >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:30 PM Erich Kaiser <er...@northcentraltower.com> >> wrote: >> >>> yes you are right. >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> North Central Tower >>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> More like 4.9 to 7. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:35 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Two of the UNII bands are heavily used for licensed PTP and I mean >>>> heavily, so really if the AFC system works correctly most of the spectrum >>>> proposed will likely be unuseable outdoor. I feel like from a reliability >>>> standpoint it will be tough to count on a system that uses AFC in general. >>>> What about the Antenna being used on these APs are they going to be able >>>> to cover the entire band from 5Ghz to 6Ghz efficiently? Just thinking... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Erich Kaiser >>>> >>>> North Central Tower >>>> >>>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>>> >>>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> from Fred Goldstein via the wispa list: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "There are really two different types of devices approved today. A >>>> Standard Power device, allowed +36 dBm EIRP, must communicate daily with an >>>> AFC that determines what frequencies are available at its location. It must >>>> have geolocation. (We are waiting to see the final Order to see how the >>>> "client AP" is handled.) The rules for the AFC are reasonably conservative, >>>> so the licensed PtP users are generally pretty happy with it. And a whole >>>> bunch of companies have already been working on AFCs. >>>> >>>> >>>> The Low Power Indoor device, on the other hand, does not require AFC. >>>> It is limited to indoor use only (must have mains power, may not be >>>> weatherproof, must be labeled) and is allowed +30 dBm EIRP (clients +24 >>>> dBm). Since those can use any frequency, the incumbents are a wee bit >>>> concerned. But between building entry losses (pretty high at 6 GHz) and the >>>> directionality of the FS dishes, harmful interference is unlikely. That is >>>> likely to be a volume market for Wi-Fi 6e. The higher-end business stuff, >>>> and ours, will be standard power. >>>> >>>> The FNPRM asks about Very Low Power outdoor operation without AFC. Like >>>> cell phones and small hotspots. It also asks about higher power for >>>> AFC-controlled devices." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:07 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yep...lots of buzz from this >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 3:47 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> WISPA said they are waiting for them to release the order. they are >>>> hoping it's 36db...there's a chance it's only 30db. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tim Withrow via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I learned that the FCC approved 1200Mhz of unlicensed spectrum in 6 >>>> Gigahertz today. >>>> >>>> any idea what Eirp they approved for fixed wireless? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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