This isn't pointed at you, its just a frustration I have. 

I don't like how someone has an opposing viewpoint and automatically "labels" 
are thrown around like "alt-right" and "far left". Are there people out there 
that are capable of a wide range of thought? Labeling people like this is 
disrespectful. Its why the media usually comes up with names and catch phrases 
to summarize anyone who has an alternative opinion. It allows people to 
immediately dismiss facts and or possibly important truths from large groups of 
people. Why not step back from it all. Remove the polarization and the endless 
dog chasing its tail. Its a hell of a lot more fun stepping back and seeing 
both sides. 

I was born and raised Catholic but I don't consider myself Christian or 
affiliated with any religion. Its unclassified what I am even though I do 
follow similar beliefs. So people who call me Christian offend me, and at the 
same time compliment me. But they are wrong either way. So why judge someone 
immediately or label them? 

I'm a veteran of flame wars back to the 80's across 300 baud modems and 
earlier. I like to throw out opposing viewpoints on purpose to stir the pot and 
get people out of their comfort level and actually consider alternative trains 
of thought (whether left or right). How can we push the boundaries of thought, 
knowledge if you tow the party line? Why not ponder "what if" the other side is 
right? Its disturbing to see how delusional some people are at the extreme they 
are at. 

So don't get offended with me if I'm throwing out some things so this 
discussion isn't some echo chamber. 

For example early on I was of the opinion that this was going to be far worse 
than we imagined and China's numbers were way low. That millions of Chinese 
died and that this was going to destroy the world as we know it. Then I started 
to see the truth and look at all perspectives. I've come to a realization that 
the reaction was worse than the actual virus. 

I'm still not sure but one thing I do know is that life will go on and the sun 
will rise tomorrow. 


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From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:07:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? 



I have seen them swinging both left and right. The main issue is that the 
alt-right seems to have issues with facts. 

I'm not religious, so I could give a shit about lent. 


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 5/6/2020 11:51 AM, [ mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com | ch...@wbmfg.com ] wrote: 



This is starting to get into lent. 
I will say, the snopes articles that I have researched after being told they 
were biased, were slightly biased. Just slightly but I did not consider them as 
fair and balanced as they would like people to believe. 
I used to really enjoy and use snopes. But then my alt-right son told me about 
a few cases to take a close look at. And he was right. I did not have the same 
conclusions as he did that they are terribly biased with an agenda etc etc. 
After that though I did read their stuff with a bit of a jaundiced eye. It was 
clear they chose to ignore or discount evidence favorable to the right but they 
don’t do the same, or at least not the the same degree to the left. 
If they give the benefit of the doubt, the benefit seemingly always swings left 
instead of right most of the time. 
If they have a choice on how to couch a response, they choose words that tend 
to make the left look better than the right. 
From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:34 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? 
I am always amazed at how disconnected the far right can be from what I think 
is reality. Snopes is fact based and Wikipedia as a whole is pretty darn 
unbiased. Just because you don't like facts doesn't make them biased. 
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:00 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: 

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I cant help but laugh when wikipedia is used to decipher neutrality. sadly, its 
one step above snopes anymore. 






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