it really is the right thing to do. she is going through a traumatic
experience and being uncivil is downright rude

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Well, I at least try to be civil when performing sexual assaults...
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
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>
> https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/the-difference-between-civil-sexual-assault-and-criminal-sexual-assault/
>
> Think it can be both, but there are plenty of examples of certainly civil
> cases where there is lack of evidence.
>
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> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:42 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a criminal offense.  I'm talking about civil cases.
>> On 5/11/2020 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Rape.  It would accomplish a rapist being sentenced.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an
>>> un-provable claim?  What does that even accomplish?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/11/2020 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and can't
>>> due to risk, ie lack of evidence.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is an area where I think we would do well to consider how other
>>>> countries do this.  My understanding is that civil cases in England put
>>>> much more of the burden of proof on the plaintiff, and that the loser pays
>>>> legal bills. So you don't sue a company unless you either (A) Know with
>>>> very high certainty that you'll win, or (B) are willing to pay the
>>>> company's lawyers when you lose.
>>>>
>>>> This would seem to pretty much eliminate frivolous "ambulance chasing"
>>>> and slap suits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/11/2020 10:15 AM, James Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And the ambulance chasing attorney that probably talked them into doing
>>>> it……
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:11 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that would be awesome if tracing showed that and then the company, and
>>>> every other person he infected turned around and sued his greedy family
>>>> into oblivion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:08 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who
>>>> died.  He was the union Chief Steward…….
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to
>>>> assume that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it somewhere else
>>>> and he was the one that brought it to that plant and spread it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark
>>>> Radabaugh
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all that was
>>>> who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace.   Apparentl
>>>> the union did a pretty crappy job.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the United Food
>>>> and Commercial Workers Union.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And so it begins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Only for ugly people.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> There are 2 separate issues. Having the government tell everyone they
>>>> must wear a mask is one thing.  A business requiring customers wear a mask
>>>> to enter their store is another.  The second actually correlates to your
>>>> example and is certainly the right of any business to put certain
>>>> requirements on using their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If
>>>> people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they are free to go
>>>> somewhere else or stay home if no one will let them in their place of
>>>> business.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually come before the
>>>> Supreme Court to decide if it is a violation of some “right” or other to be
>>>> told that everyone is required to wear a mask in public.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Steve Jones <
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>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when in public"....
>>>> do
>>>> you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"?
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