You gotta get them young, before they turn...

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

Oink Oink?  I thought we turned sheep into pigs around here.


On 5/11/2020 2:11 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Baaaa Baaaa...

  From: James Howard 
  Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:57 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

  Chuck never said she……

   

  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:34 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

   

  it really is the right thing to do. she is going through a traumatic 
experience and being uncivil is downright rude

   

  On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    Well, I at least try to be civil when performing sexual assaults...

     

    From: Josh Luthman 

    Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:06 AM

    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

     

    
https://jsberrylaw.com/blog/the-difference-between-civil-sexual-assault-and-criminal-sexual-assault/

     

    Think it can be both, but there are plenty of examples of certainly civil 
cases where there is lack of evidence.

     

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
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    On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:42 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

      That's a criminal offense.  I'm talking about civil cases.

      On 5/11/2020 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

        Rape.  It would accomplish a rapist being sentenced.


         

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
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        On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

          In what circumstance would you have a moral imperative to file an 
un-provable claim?  What does that even accomplish?

           

          On 5/11/2020 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

            But also eliminate the cases that should (morally) be filed and 
can't due to risk, ie lack of evidence.


             

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
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            Suite 1337
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            On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:21 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

              This is an area where I think we would do well to consider how 
other countries do this.  My understanding is that civil cases in England put 
much more of the burden of proof on the plaintiff, and that the loser pays 
legal bills. So you don't sue a company unless you either (A) Know with very 
high certainty that you'll win, or (B) are willing to pay the company's lawyers 
when you lose.

              This would seem to pretty much eliminate frivolous "ambulance 
chasing" and slap suits.

               

              On 5/11/2020 10:15 AM, James Howard wrote:

                And the ambulance chasing attorney that probably talked them 
into doing it……

                 

                From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
Jones
                Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:11 AM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                 

                that would be awesome if tracing showed that and then the 
company, and every other person he infected turned around and sued his greedy 
family into oblivion

                 

                 

                On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:08 AM James Howard 
<ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

                  In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the 
fellow who died.  He was the union Chief Steward……. 

                   

                  Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just 
seems to assume that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it somewhere 
else and he was the one that brought it to that plant and spread it? 

                   

                   

                   

                  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark 
Radabaugh
                  Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
                  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                   

                  Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after 
all that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace.   
Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job.

                   

                  Mark

                   

                    On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard 
<ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

                     

                    Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the 
United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

                     

                     

                     

                    From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof
                    Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
                    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                     

                    A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?

                     

                    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
                    Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
                    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                     

                    And so it begins. 

                     

                     

                    
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit

                     

                     

                     

                      On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                      Only for ugly people.

                      Sent from my iPhone

                       

                        On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard 
<ja...@litewire.net> wrote:

                         

                        There are 2 separate issues. Having the government tell 
everyone they must wear a mask is one thing.  A business requiring customers 
wear a mask to enter their store is another.  The second actually correlates to 
your example and is certainly the right of any business to put certain 
requirements on using their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If 
people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they are free to go somewhere 
else or stay home if no one will let them in their place of business.

                         

                        On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually 
come before the Supreme Court to decide if it is a violation of some “right” or 
other to be told that everyone is required to wear a mask in public.

                         

                         

                        From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
Matt Hoppes
                        Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
                        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; 
Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                         

                        To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when 
in public".... do 
                        you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No 
Service"?

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