I see. Well that’s illegal in the parks we manage and security would be over in 
a flash. 

I’m aware of continental. Which is interesting since OTARD doesn’t apply to 
commercial. 

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> Deadheading bobtail.  Happens all the time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Again. Why would a semi be parking in the middle of the park?
>> 
>> Sure. It can be in a designated space. No one parks in the roadway to sleep. 
>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess you have not been in the sleeper of a nice large semi lately.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:42 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>>> 
>>> Why would a semi be parking in the middle of an RV park?
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not an RV'er, but I thought it was somewhat common to have a portable 
>>>> or roof mounted sat TV dish that even automatically aims itself.  Like 
>>>> this:
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Winegard-PL7000R-Playmaker-Portable-Satellite/dp/B074CPRJSD
>>>> 
>>>> Supposedly you can add a mobile dish to your home subscription so you 
>>>> don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a couple months when you hit the 
>>>> road in summer.  We have a farm customer that uses their "mobile" dish at 
>>>> their scalehouse during harvest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:17 PM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>>>> 
>>>> So if a semi wants to park there and they have a nice mobile sat under the 
>>>> radome, you going to knock on their sleeper and ask if they are watching 
>>>> TV?
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Matt Hoppes
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:13 PM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>>>> 
>>>> OTARD does not apply to someone else’s property. Normally the satellite 
>>>> dishes are not mounted on your RV they are mounted on the land belonging 
>>>> to the camp owner.
>>>> 
>>>> And 0TARD does not apply to commercial environments which a campground is.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How can you enforce no satellite dishes.   Sounds like a clear violation
>>>>> of FCC OTARD...   You couldn't even tell if we were using our satellite
>>>>> dish it's fully enclosed and not visible.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 06/11/2020 02:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>> Why are you doing fiber?
>>>>>> We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream over
>>>>>> the Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed.
>>>>>> It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly to
>>>>>> the sectors that cover several RV campers.
>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and that's
>>>>>>> part of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal.  I just thought it
>>>>>>> would be nice to have the option to plug in a cable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of the RV
>>>>>>> power ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/.
>>>>>>> <http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might
>>>>>>> give me a place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be two
>>>>>>> keystone jacks in it.  My two reasons for suggesting this approach
>>>>>>> are that each RV gets their own WiFi instead of sharing it with
>>>>>>> everybody around them, and if there was ever a law enforcement issue
>>>>>>> we could track the usage to a particular site rather than just 
>>>>>>> "somewhere in the park".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>> As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and
>>>>>>>> doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for.   Don't
>>>>>>>> even carry and ethernet cable...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a post
>>>>>>>>>> next to their power and water hookups.  I'd want the campers to be
>>>>>>>>>> able to plug Ethernet in at the box if they have the wherewithal to 
>>>>>>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>>>>> And if they don't then they have their own private WiFi right
>>>>>>>>>> outside their RV.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this
>>>>>>>>>> together, but I'm betting someone must have made a product for this 
>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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