a campground campsite is a rented domicile. you cannot make alterations to the property as with any rental. nothing can prohibit the use of an attached receiver (transmitter, yes) but is can disallow the use of even a tripod that isnt attached. It is the same as the way they can disallow a visible firearm, but they cannot restrict the possession of a firearm within the main housing unit.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:49 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > If we need to call "lent" on discussion a well established fact like the > holocaust then we're doomed. Up is down, black is white, all fact and > truth are irrelevant. > On 6/12/2020 2:07 PM, James Howard wrote: > > But the skeptic might argue that the fact that you knew someone with a > tattoo on his arm actually proves that it didn’t happen since OBVIOUSLY he > wasn’t killed…… It just proves that they put people in prison camps and/or > tattooed them. > > > > > > This topic definitely has the potential for an early Lent….. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 12:34 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > I was not alive during the Holocaust, nor have I ever been to Germany. > > So I only know what I have experienced. > > > > But the overwhelming quantity of media on the subject seems to indicate > something happened.... > > Oh, and the fact I actually knew someone with a tattoo on their arm... > yeah, there’s that... > > > > *From:* Adam Moffett > > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 11:21 AM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > If you mean because of the Internet then I agree with that. I asked an > astronomy question on Quora and an actual astronomer answered it. That > kind of direct access to information and expertise is amazing. On the > other hand, since anyone can put anything out there a lot of fringe people > are finding and supporting each other. > > Holocaust deniers sure, but also every other brand of idiocy like > homeopathy, magic rocks, antivax, neonazi's, etc. > > > > On 6/12/2020 1:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > I worked on the Stanford campus in the 70's.. saw and talked to Shockley > on a semi-daily basis. Had no idea of the idiocy that he supported. Just > seemed like a very aloof guy but liked to chat... Yeah we are in an age > where these people are getting to say what they used to have to hide... > > On 6/12/20 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Professors are a mixed lot. I took a course from this guy, who apparently > is still teaching although he would be well into his 80’s now. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz > > > > I had no idea at the time he was a Holocaust denier. I’ve never > understood those people – my dad was in the Army in WWII and participated > in liberating some concentration camps. I mean, it’s a freakin’ fact, how > can you deny facts. Anyway, my recollection of Professor Butz was I had a > friend who kept writing the name as “Prof. Butts” on his assignments and > tests. We kept telling him it was spelled Butz but he thought we were > joking. Brings new meaning to the expression “butt of a joke”. > > > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > Behalf Of *Robert > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 10:54 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > Were you in the same class as I was? We had the same professor, I > think.. Drove me off the deep end... Specially when he blocked the > equations with his body as he erased!! But we had this one other > assoc-prof.. Name of Jim Clark.. He was wild, specially when he went > into game theory and betting systems.. Yep that Clark. Worked for him 20 > years later... > > On 6/12/20 8:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Oh man. I was doing great in calculus until we got to differential > equations. I blame the professor. Harry Blackman. What a terrible > professor! He lectured with his back to the class and wrote on the > blackboard; chalk in his outstretched right hand, and eraser in his > outstretched left hand. He would write equations as he droned, and erased > the information in the space between his hands. What a horrible experience > that was! > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 6/12/2020 8:22 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > See, I only cared about the digital stuff. Though power, motors, etc. > were pretty cool as well. Grades were good in those classes. > > > > Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a plant out > of a microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he suggested. But I want > to do Microcontrollers. Yep, first job was building industrial control > systems with PLC’s. I’m guessing I was a completely cocky bastard as a 21 > year old. Perhaps someday I’ll grow out of that. Or not. > > > > Heh, calculus. My last all night study session managed to turn a > perfectly good B+ in differential equations into a D. Walked in to that > exam and drew a complete blank. Should have just slept, probably would > have aced it. > > > > Mark > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > > > Those were the ONLY classes I cared about. Got A’s in all things antenna > and RF. > > Got A’s in most of the linear stuff. > > > > Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone.... (those > guys are called bit freaks) > > Got a C- in integral calculus. > > > > *From:* Mark Radabaugh > > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 8:42 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-) D’s get > degrees. I’m never going to use this shit. Take the EIT / PE exam? > Why the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer. > > > > Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with > microwaves and antenna systems every day. > > > > Ah, to know then what I know now. Just don’t make me do all this shit > over again. > > > > Mark > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > > > Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the aluminum > box into an antenna. > > > > Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college. And I have a fear > of heights. So of course I end up running a WISP. But turning a Faraday > cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2020 9:07 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber > > > > I like your solution actually. Should work out well. Hardest part with > trailers is getting through the aluminum box. Putting AP’s close will > help a lot. > > > > Mark > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping. > > I'm proposing both a wireless and fiber solution. I'm sure they'll pick > WiFi because it'll be cheaper, but I wanted to put all the cards on the > table. > > As far as why I'm bothering to propose fiber: > > 1) If there's fiber to the power pedestal, and each ped (or every other > ped) has it's own little router with it's own SSID and key, then there's a > security benefit vs having everybody in the park be able to sniff traffic > from each other's devices. > > 2) We could track any illegal/bad/weird activity to a specific RV site (or > at least to the proximity of one). > > 3) The changing positions and occupancy of RV sites won't affect anybody's > WiFi because their WiFi will be right next to them no matter what. Neither > will the growth of trees hurt them. > > 4) No capacity issue in the park (and the feed TO the park can of course > always be upgraded). > > 5) Infinitely upgrade-able. > > 6) We have all the equipment and personnel and we want to use them. > There's an indefinite amount of work for them expanding and improving our > own network, but if they do it for the campground we can bill them out. > > -Adam > > > > > > On 6/11/2020 5:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > Why are you doing fiber? > > > > We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream over the > Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed. > > > > It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly to the > sectors that cover several RV campers. > > > > On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com > <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and that's part > of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal. I just thought it would be > nice to have the option to plug in a cable. > > I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of the RV power > ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/. > <http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/> > > Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might give me a > place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be two keystone jacks > in it. My two reasons for suggesting this approach are that each RV gets > their own WiFi instead of sharing it with everybody around them, and if > there was ever a law enforcement issue we could track the usage to a > particular site rather than just "somewhere in the park". > > > > On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and > doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for. Don't even > carry and ethernet cable... > > On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site? > > I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a post next to > their power and water hookups. I'd want the campers to be able to plug > Ethernet in at the box if they have the wherewithal to do so. 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