need to bust the union, and somehow incentivise turning in dirty cops
instead of making doing the right thing out to be the worst possible thing
a cop can do. I never understood the thin blue line between good and evil
protecting the evil side out of "brotherhood". National protocols with
regional cutouts like EMS would help too.
I know a couple people who were innocent that have done prison time because
of dirty cops. One took a plea because of overcharging (white daughter
didnt want daddy to know shed been diddling the non caucasion). SA/DAs
knowing cops fabricated evidence to get the guy "off the streets" cause if
he didnt do this particular crime, he did something burns me up. Look what
happens when these guys finally get caught, thousands of cases have to be
reviewed, and sometimes guilty folks have to be released.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:58 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> They need to figure out how to teach restraint. I am for them to have the
> tools they need.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize the police.
> Local podunk PDs have no business buying million dollar MRAPs.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> the problem is the defund the police folks dont understand economics.
> there isnt enough money as it is for maintaining the police presence for
> the criminal side of things. taking that money and paying for a bunch of
> counsellors doesnt lead to having enough cops. Removing police from schools
> is a 1 percent thing, the other 99 percent will pull their kids out without
> resource officers. Mental health still will need police, they dont go to a
> hot environment because they dont have arrest powers if it goes downhill,
> and you dont want jonna the counselor having to fight the loon.
> They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete non starter. They
> consider the bullet proof vests to be a mechanism of intimidation, anyone
> who has actually had a vest do its job would never let somebody else go in
> without one.
> Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making everything
> illegal, and you immediately have less criminals
> stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally example I wish they
> would recognize. The media says if he wasnt guilty, why would he take a
> plea? I can find you thousands of young black men who can answer that
> question without skipping a beat.
> Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually work for their
> conviction rates at trial, bet you see a less burdened court and prison
> system right quick.
> Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole lot of dough to put
> into those other programs, and over time that cost goes down as guards age
> out and dont need to be replaced because the cells are empty.
>
> defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and giving it an
> antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the police to deal with
>> issues like mental health, homelessness, domestic disputes, street vendors,
>> routine discipline in schools, etc., and instead use that money to fund
>> specialists, and let the police handle murders and robberies and stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had a discussion with someone who is all for defund the police and I
>> said if that’s what they mean, the term really sucks, because it conveys
>> something totally different and many people are not going to support
>> something that sounds like disband the police and then nobody handles
>> murders and robberies. Rather than saying reform the police, or narrow
>> their focus, or move some of their responsibilities to other agencies. But
>> he said I was wrong, without really explaining why I was wrong. I think he
>> meant we can call it what we want to, who cares if it’s unnecessarily
>> provocative. Or maybe he really does want to disband the police.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *justsumname .
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
>>
>>
>>
>> is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things really going totally
>> bathshitcrazy ?!? "de-fund the police" .... is just ONE thing.
>>
>>
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