They need to figure out how to teach restraint. I am for them to have the
tools they need.
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> On Jun 15, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize the police. Local
> podunk PDs have no business buying million dollar MRAPs.
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> bp
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> On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> the problem is the defund the police folks dont understand economics. there
>> isnt enough money as it is for maintaining the police presence for the
>> criminal side of things. taking that money and paying for a bunch of
>> counsellors doesnt lead to having enough cops. Removing police from schools
>> is a 1 percent thing, the other 99 percent will pull their kids out without
>> resource officers. Mental health still will need police, they dont go to a
>> hot environment because they dont have arrest powers if it goes downhill,
>> and you dont want jonna the counselor having to fight the loon.
>> They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete non starter. They
>> consider the bullet proof vests to be a mechanism of intimidation, anyone
>> who has actually had a vest do its job would never let somebody else go in
>> without one.
>> Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making everything illegal,
>> and you immediately have less criminals
>> stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally example I wish they
>> would recognize. The media says if he wasnt guilty, why would he take a
>> plea? I can find you thousands of young black men who can answer that
>> question without skipping a beat.
>> Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually work for their
>> conviction rates at trial, bet you see a less burdened court and prison
>> system right quick.
>> Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole lot of dough to put
>> into those other programs, and over time that cost goes down as guards age
>> out and dont need to be replaced because the cells are empty.
>>
>> defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and giving it an
>> antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>> For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the police to deal with
>>> issues like mental health, homelessness, domestic disputes, street vendors,
>>> routine discipline in schools, etc., and instead use that money to fund
>>> specialists, and let the police handle murders and robberies and stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a discussion with someone who is all for defund the police and I said
>>> if that’s what they mean, the term really sucks, because it conveys
>>> something totally different and many people are not going to support
>>> something that sounds like disband the police and then nobody handles
>>> murders and robberies. Rather than saying reform the police, or narrow
>>> their focus, or move some of their responsibilities to other agencies. But
>>> he said I was wrong, without really explaining why I was wrong. I think he
>>> meant we can call it what we want to, who cares if it’s unnecessarily
>>> provocative. Or maybe he really does want to disband the police.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of justsumname .
>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
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>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
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>>>
>>> is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things really going totally
>>> bathshitcrazy ?!? "de-fund the police" .... is just ONE thing.
>>>
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