Yeah - the L2 VLAN config on CRS has been frustrating to say the least.  I
haven't even tried this "new" method on the CRS317, but it's on my list
soon.

Juniper EX JunOS syntax across models is more or less the same.  There are
some minor differences when you get into EX4600 since it uses ELS (enhanced
L2 software) software.

Josh

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:08 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well the CRS 3xx line is actually their best so far.  I've noted at least
> 4 ways to set up VLAN's on a Mikrotik and in any given scenario 3 of them
> are wrong.  On the 3xx use Bridge->VLAN and enable VLAN filtering on your
> bridge interface.  That is the only platform where the bridge VLAN
> filtering gets hardware acceleration, and if you did that on any other
> model you'd be dependent on the CPU.  For CRS 1xx and 2xx you use
> Switch->VLAN menu which has different options and capabilities.  For CCR or
> any of the other router products you can use bridge->VLAN filtering, but
> there's still an older method under Interface->VLAN which also works and
> you can either add VLAN interfaces to a bridge, or bridge the VLAN
> interfaces together.  All of these methods are "right" in the right
> scenario, and 3 out of the 4 are always wrong.
>
> A stack of those CRS317's was an alternate suggestion made here.  Four of
> those would cost 1/10th what we'd spend on an EX4600, but I'm kind of sick
> of that whole scene.
>
> If you're in Juniper world and you have two different models, how much
> different is the command syntax to do the same jobs?
>
>
> On 6/30/2020 10:56 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> EX4600 is nice, but it's not cheap.  Yes, you can create a VC using the
> 40Gbps interfaces (or the 10Gbps interfaces).  You may consider the older
> EX4550 if you are trying to save money.
>
> I'm actually looking for something similar.. I have a few of the
> CRS317-1G-16S+RM in stock, but tbh, I'm a little scared to use them, and
> I'm also not looking forward to the miserable L2 config on CRS.  I really
> just need 4-6 SFP+ interfaces for this particular application.
>
> The Cisco Nexus 3064 is another cheap/old option, but seems to work fine
> for L2 access (servers, etc).
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:52 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lots of 10gig SFP+
>>
>> I just eyeballed the Juniper EX4600.  Wondering if I can stack chassis
>> using the 40gig ports.
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/2020 10:49 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>
>> What interface config are you looking for?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:47 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For the moment just L2: VLAN, ethertype filter, port
>>> isolation.....standard stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming Juniper has software for central management?  I poo-poo'd
>>> that stuff for a long time, but try to push one change out to 300 Mikrotiks
>>> and spending $10k on management software starts to look attractive all of a
>>> sudden.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/30/2020 10:31 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>
>>> What featureset do you need?  Just L2?  Any L3 features?
>>>
>>> Juniper EX is my go-to for most applications.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So who's your preferred vendor for carrier switches?
>>>>
>>>> Suppose you want to break away from buggy Latvian switches, who would
>>>> you look at today?
>>>>
>>>> Ciena? Adtran? Cisco? Juniper?
>>>>
>>>>
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