It was certainly a feed lot.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 3:18 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

How many cattle will 5 acres handle reasonably (and I'm not talking feed lot)? 
Here, 5 acres might handle 3 or 4 cattle, and that might be pushing it; 
especially in summer.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/7/2020 1:55 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  We have one dude with 75 head of Texas Longhorns.  His neighbors “love it”. 
  The county passed an ordinance limiting him to 20 I think.  The old ordinance 
limited him to 4.  But they didn’t enforce it.
  That was a bit too low in my opinion.  
  He has hinted that it will be an armed confrontation if they come for his 
cattle.  

  But most have 2-3 horses if they have any animals at all.
  The dirt here is crap so there are very few truck garden types of things.  

  But yeah, they all have this idea of being self sufficient on their 
ranchette.  

  From: castarritt 
  Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 2:51 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

  And all of them call their little 5 acre tract "the ranch".

  On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:13 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    In my area, they move out to a 5 acre plot.  They end up with a house and 
    4.5 acres of highly flammable weeds.  Then they take legal action against 
    land developers wanting to create more customers for me claiming 1 acre 
home 
    lots are "high density".  And they claim to know what the local residents 
    "want".  I have lived here for 20 years and they have lived here for 2 
years 
    but they know what I want...

    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Nate Burke
    Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:58 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming

    Worse are the people who move to the country then try to 'improve'
    things because they know how to do it better, having lived in the city
    their whole life.


    On 8/7/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    > I also notice the real estate market is really hot right now.
    >
    > I'm not sure if it's low mortgage rates, or people trying to move away 
    > from
    > Covid.
    >
    > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS3XM3xAPk
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
    > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 1:37 PM
    > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
    >
    > Gee, move even farther out from the city and you will have to drill your 
    > own
    > well and put in a septic tank.
    > Even farther and you will be doing off grid solar and generators.
    > Even farther you will have to commute with a helicopter.
    >
    > Never understood folks that move out into the country but expect city type
    > of infrastructure.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Nate Burke
    > Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:33 PM
    > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
    >
    > I just had a guy this week move out of the city.  'I was getting 350mb for
    > what you want for 20mb, your price is too high'.  I refused to move.  He
    > signed up anyway.  Normal user traffic pattern of <5mb/s.
    >
    > On 8/7/2020 1:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    >> My latest challenge (and the kids aren't even back to school yet) is
    >> people wanting more upstream.  Because 3 people in the house are on
    >> Zoom conferences, stuff like that.  Or they are live streaming events
    >> on Facebook.
    >>
    >> The other thing, maybe a trend, I'm getting customers saying this
    >> other WISP is advertising a higher speed or a lower price, and wanting
    >> me to match it.
    >> I think it's similar to Nate's problem, people are wanting to do more
    >> things (like 3 simultaneous Zoom calls) and have more devices and
    >> streaming services, but they don't want to pay more.  So they shop
    >> around, and want your steak to match a competitor's sizzle so they can
    >> get more without paying more or doing any work.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
    >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 12:49 PM
    >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
    >>
    >> Yep, watched two partial baseball games in the last week.
    >> The Houston/Arizona game had an odd audio artifact.
    >> Sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a culvert.
    >> It might have been a misguided effort to simulate crowd noise but it
    >> was annoying.
    >>
    >> No pixilation here.  I love that the computer now not only shows the
    >> strike zone, but sometimes it calls balls and strikes as well as
    >> giving the speed.
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Nate Burke
    >> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 11:26 AM
    >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    >> Subject: [AFMUG] Sports Streaming
    >>
    >> I've seen a big uptick in traffic over the last 2 or 3 weeks. Aren't
    >> major sports starting up again?  I'm guessing all the people who
    >> switched to streaming only over the summer are now streaming the sports.
    >>
    >> I've been dealing with one guy, he is on our lowest plan, and keeps
    >> complaining that his sports are pixelated.  And he's just gotta have
    >> sports and just doesn't understand why it's not working perfect on his
    >> 4k TV.  I can see he's maxed the connection 'My speed test is only
    >> 0.25mb and nothing in the house is running now, `still maxed traffic`,
    >> well the TV is on'
    >> I'm
    >> guessing that the Variable bitrate codecs takes more for sports than
    >> normal TV.  I told him to upgrade his package, he said he didn't want
    >> to spend any more money on Internet.  He's on Hulu + live TV + Sports,
    >> so that's already costing him more than what he's paying us, probably
    >> close to what satellite costs.  Then He wanted to know what TV to buy
    >> to make it stream better, I told him that wouldn't help.  Then he
    >> wanted to know what WIFI extender to buy to make it stream better, I
    >> told him that wouldn't help.  But he's claims he is on a tight budget
    >> and can't afford any more for internet.  I told him to put up an
    >> Antenna 'But then I can't get the sportsnet channel'
    >> I told him to go find a new provider and stop calling me then.  'But
    >> I don't like Comcast...'  Tough, but I'm not talking to you anymore if
    >> you're complaining about streaming.  Priorities people have....
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