Yeah.... just now firing this up.  We have customers seeing our work crews and 
accosting them for service.  I could say it is a wonderful problem to have buy 
my eye is truly on greenfield.  We are serving some of them along the way.  

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

Thats why you order months in advance and spread delivery timelines out :)



  On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:23 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  BTW, I just heard that Calix cannot get the broadcom chip used in the 844s.  
So October or later for deliveries.  

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:12 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

  Yeah, I wouldn't use it outdoors.  Possibly straight out of the back of NID 
on the outside wall into the unit.  We just use it for the fiber wall plate to 
the 844G.   In MDUs we run 3MM RBR bend insensitive pre-terminated on one end 
and splice it in the wall plate.  You can also get it terminated on both ends 
of course.  It can be run pretty much like cat5.  If part of the run is 
outside, get the version with UV protection.  Wall plates are cheap and 
replacing a 1m patch cable is a whole lot easier then replacing a drop to a 
unit if you go straight to the ONT.  We have fibermint build out our wall 
plates with a shutter adapter and a pigtail.  Order ~1K at a time.  Speaking of 
which it is time to drop another order.  Lead times are a PITA due to COVID19 
and the constant changing of tariff rules.  

  On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:02 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    If the FS is tough enough to run from the NID to the biscuit and withstand 
staples, tight bends and UV then it sounds pretty good.  But I really like the 
little metal bullet end on the pre terminated Miniflex.  Easy to push through a 
wall etc.  

    From: Carl Peterson 
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:34 AM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

    FS armored patch is different then clearfield pushable.  FS has a 900um 
loose inside a metal spiral with a PVC jacket.  CFD pushable has a 900um in gel 
inside a thick plastic jacket.  You can't really push the FS with connectors on 
it, or at all really.  The FS is much more flexible and doesn't kink like CFD 
pushable but you can't push it.  I don't like CFD pushable outside of 
microduct.  Too easy to mess up and there are better fibers for the 
application.  



    On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

      Well,   I have managed to put a staple through it if that counts :-)   If 
you don’t shoot the staple right through it it works fine - I just had bad aim. 
  And for what it’s worth the cable still worked.   It’s at my house so I’m not 
too worried about it.  Hopefully our install crew uses a little more care. 

      It’s relatively stiff but it’s not like the Clearfield or other brands of 
pushable fiber that have a very minimal diameter protected stub at the end that 
you then assemble the SC connector to after pushing it in.   You can get the 
movable part of the SC connector to pop off but you still have the full square 
end of the SC to deal with - it won’t go through most microduct, but you can 
get it through the normal drill size you shove CAT-5 cable though.

      Mark



        On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

        Will this FS stuff take a staple and can you push it through microduct?

        From: Mark Radabaugh 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:23 PM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

        I fhink you preterminated indoor jumper cost is too high.   These 
https://www.fs.com/c/armored-patch-cables-220 work fine for the inside wiring 
from the outdoor box to the wall plate or direct to CPE if you are not doing a 
inside jack.  They are not UV rated so you have to make sure you don’t leave 
them exposed outdoor.   You can pop the outer SC portion off the jumper if you 
want to pass through a smaller hole. 

        Mark



          On Aug 12, 2020, at 7:00 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

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