I have been running a pbx for years. We need extension to extension calling,
paging, conf all the stuff you expect in a business. Multiple calls on the
same line outgoing, all the conventional pbx features. Aastra phones etc.
Costs us nothing to run asterisk. Just have to pay for sip trunking. Voip
lines are cheaper.
From: Daniel White
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question
Xmission is using Netsapiens like Lewis and I :-)
I'm not sure why you are gung-ho to run a PBX for your shop if you are buying
services from them. What little you save in money you lose in redundancy, ease
of configuration, etc. etc.
Your not really running your own product if you are not replicating what you
are selling to your business customers.
If you bought a seat from me, on my Netsapiens platform, and tried to change
the Caller ID it wouldn't work. On a SIP trunk, it passes through. On the
flip side, so long as you could show me that you own a TN (even if it not on my
service) I would provision Caller ID to reflect that number.
I've proactively implemented policies we will have to have for STIR/SHAKEN...
no sense dealing with the mess when it becomes law.
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
chuck@wbmfg.comSeptember 23, 2020 at 15:34
We are mixing apples and oranges in this tread.
I am (going to be) reselling VOIP from Xmission in SLC.
They have been around since the beginning of the internet. I presume
whatever they are using is carrier class.
I am the one running asterisk for my shop. I would like to start to use my
own product, the Xmission VoIP rather than paying much more for SIP trunks from
Xmission.
From: Daniel White
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT sip question
Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is doing
on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not anywhere
close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch.
Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more
predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... they
lose not you.
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Daniel WhiteSeptember 23, 2020 at 15:30
Not necessarily, especially if you consider what a hosting provider is doing
on top of just the pure minutes. Also, any free PBX solution is not anywhere
close to the capabilities and resiliency of a real switch.
Fixed cost also means you know your margins and makes things far more
predictable. And if you have a user that uses more than the average... they
lose not you.
TJ TroutSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:35
with any volume you want to go to a per minute/per item rate, then you reap
the profits instead of the guy offering you $8 flat rate...
chuck@wbmfg.comSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:31
With LNP and direct PSAP and unlimited LD etc?
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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I would have to assume doing with a national wholesale voip provider would be
a fraction of the cost compared to a $8 flat rate per line.
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TJ TroutSeptember 23, 2020 at 14:27
I would have to assume doing with a national wholesale voip provider would be
a fraction of the cost compared to a $8 flat rate per line.
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