Still , a fortune. I was making $2.50/hr in those years. Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 11, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > > I forgot to take all the taxes out of that for each summer. I netted more > like 4K for the summer.. > >> On 10/11/20 3:49 PM, Robert wrote: >> When I went to UCSC one quarter all up cost about $1.7K in 1975 This year, >> just the tuition, room and board and mandatory health insurance is going to >> cost you $36K _california resident_ I was able to work for $9.40/hour at a >> gas station as a jr manager, opening and closing during the summer. 60 >> hours weeks for 12 weeks. That was almost $7K for the summer, minus gas and >> some small expenses while staying at my parents. Yes I was overpaid, pays >> to know someone, I also opened, closed and did the books. But I don't care >> who you know but joe blow isn't going to get a summer job that is going to >> come anywhere close to $100K for summer or even year round work when you are >> in college now. What's the difference? UC California turns students away >> by the bushel. Instead of a system that focused on California High School >> graduates, it's a system that focuses on attracting donors that can put >> names on buildings. Slots are full from outside the state at huge financial >> cash flow. Everyone else can go to a Jr College. >> >> On 10/11/20 2:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> Here’s one I don’t understand. Not pointing a finger, I genuinely don’t >>> understand. Student loan debt. Is that the huge issue that people say? >>> And if so, is that a new phenomenon? Why? >>> >>> I assume my dad went to college on the GI Bill after WWII. I worked 20 >>> hours a week all through college making pizzas and burgers, and had a coop >>> job every third quarter or so until the coop jobs disappeared due to a >>> recession. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1969%E2%80%931970 >>> >>> Plus my parents helped out. I don’t remember my friends in college talking >>> about student debt, but maybe they had it and it just wasn’t talked about. >>> >>> I can speculate some possible reasons for a student debt crisis now: >>> >>> - Tuition has gone up >>> - Part time jobs and coop jobs unavailable or don’t pay enough >>> - Less financial assistance available >>> - Predatory for-profit schools >>> - Lots of kids who couldn’t find jobs in the Great Recession went to school >>> or pursued advanced degrees instead >>> >>> None of these seem like adequate explanations. College is too expensive, >>> not sure how much it has gone up adjusted for inflation. You’d think with >>> online instruction and extensive use of low paid adjunct professors they >>> could keep costs down. Certainly dorms, food and other amenities are a lot >>> fancier than when I was in college, maybe those costs have gotten out of >>> hand. You’d also think state schools and especially community colleges >>> would be affordable options, Harvard and Yale aren’t the only places to get >>> a good education. >>> >>> But if there’s genuinely a huge student debt crisis, what is causing it, >>> and how do we fix it? Is “free college for all” really the only solution? >>> >>> I understand with the pandemic, people out of work can’t pay their student >>> debts, but supposedly this problem predates the pandemic. >>> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince >>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 3:54 PM >>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer >>> >>> Yah. Even though I'm a boomer, I think attributing the current state of the >>> economy entirely on boomers is missing the mark somewhat. There are a whole >>> raft of issues that are squeezing millenials like globalization and extreme >>> automation. You keep adding barriers, and getting or creating a good paying >>> job just gets more difficult. If all you can do is flip burgers at Micky >>> D's or pour coffee at Starbucks, maybe you need to think a bit more >>> creatively. >>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> On 10/11/2020 11:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> Obviously I’m prejudiced, but I don’t think this whole trope about all the >>> problems young people today face being the fault of the baby boomers (and >>> wishing they would die and stop hogging all the good jobs) is quite >>> accurate. >>> >>> Yes we had a long recession starting in 2008 (but of course there were >>> recessions back in the 1970’s as well), but I saw a lot of parents dipping >>> into their 401K savings and taking out loans on their paid-off houses so >>> their adult children could live with them, or to pay for their kids to go >>> to college instead of being unemployed. >>> >>> Baby boomer 401K plans were a big cushion for millennials and the economy >>> in general during the “Great Recession”. I think what will actually hit >>> the millennials is when the boomers do die, they won’t be inheriting as >>> much money because those retirement funds got drained. Also, don’t kid >>> yourself that 70 year old boomer greeting people at Walmart or bagging >>> groceries at Kroger is just continuing to work for the fun of it, or that a >>> millennial wanted that job anyway. As far as the “good” jobs, age >>> discrimination kicks in around age 50. I don’t think Google and Facebook >>> have a lot of boomers writing code. How many boomers does Elon Musk have >>> designing Teslas and SpaceX rockets? >>> >>> Still a funny skit, but I run into millennials who totally blame all their >>> woes on boomers screwing their generation over. And the “why don’t they >>> die already” viewpoint spills over into Covid discussions. Lots of >>> anti-maskers say things like “if they don’t feel safe going out, they are >>> free to not go out”. Or there aren’t that many deaths if you ignore the >>> old people who were going to die anyway. People at least didn’t used to >>> say stuff like that out loud. >>> >>> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert >>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:25 PM >>> To: af@af.afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer >>> >>> very apropos... >>> >>> On 10/11/20 10:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/millennial-millions/3867395 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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