I have considered adding a small galvanizing pot.  I will probably continue to 
“consider” it.  They take lots of energy, lots of baths of cleaning and 
pickling stuff that probably are hazardous waste.  Sure would be handy though.  

 

I did add a water jet a month ago.  Should have done that years ago.  More 
accurate than plasma, no heat affected zone.  Can cut really thick stuff and 
can cut anything, glass, stone, toilet paper.  We do some race car parts for 
the local race track.  We cut down some brake pads with it the other day.  So 
much cleaner than machining.  

 

Great for one off sheet metal parts that are very accurate.  If I was doing it 
all over again, I would have gotten the water jet first before the plasma.  

We are tweaking it, so far we can hold about .010” but sneaking up on .005”.  
It has a tiny bit of taper on thick stuff but we think we can get the taper 
down to .005” on a 1” thick part.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:22 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

They sell a lot of name brand safety, climbing and rigging supplies.  But yes 
most of their tower steel is their own Valmont stuff.  Sitepro1 I think 
basically started out as Valmont’s online store.  I believe they also own PiRod 
Towers.

 

There was also Connect-It Wireless (ciwireless.com) in Florida which 
manufactured a lot of similar galvanized steel products, but Valmont bought 
them.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 10:32 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

It is their own stuff (Valmont)  as far as the steel stuff goes.  They own 
massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost 
wise.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown 
tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists 
though

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping 
mark.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com 
<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities 
of steel stuff on their shelf.  Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only 
works if I happen to have stock.  Usually I have to build the drop ship orders 
which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8 weeks.  I offer to 
virtual warehouse and fulfill for them but none of the rest want to use that 
option.  All of our stuff is modular so we do large quantities of the common 
parts.  

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Woof.  Hopefully they come in soon. 

 

In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more.  The MTOW10 is better 
functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it makes 
no sense for us to stock two sizes.

 

2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly, 2 foot 
pipes.

 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:51 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com 
<mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> > wrote:

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

 

Right but when it's 6 weeks short?  How can you simply not have stock for so 
long.  And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from 
order to ship?

 

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products other than 
distributors not placing large enough stocking orders.  

It isn’t rocket surgery to keep track of your run rates and look for trends.  
But inventory is cash sitting on the shelf.  I do understand.  

But I am still going to keep building to order rather than to forecast.  

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

I saw that some doctor was saying that politicizing face masks was like 
politicizing toilet paper.

 

Maybe that’s your answer.  Convince half the people to refuse to use TP.  Then 
there will be plenty for us.

 

My local grocery store has an entire aisle of the Northern Quilted 3-ply Ultra 
Plush, it’s like Kleenex for your butt.  Except they are all the Maxi rolls.  I 
need someone to use half of each roll and then send them to me.  Those giant 
rolls are like the rolls of paper you see on newspaper printing presses.  I 
have to set them on the vanity top because they don’t fit in the roll holder on 
the wall, and with all the hand washing we’re supposed to be doing, you risk a 
full roll of toilet paper getting wet.

 

I suppose I could mount an M-TOW to the wall as a toilet paper roll holder.  
Except everybody’s out of M-TOWs.  (actually I saw a couple on eBay.  Regular 
M-TOWs, not the P version.)

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 4:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

 

Ive been getting my TP at a janitorial supply here in town through this whole 
thing, 48 rolls at a time, cheaper than walmart, really soft without leaving 
any furballs. Theyve had that, sanitizer, masks, etc throughout. People are 
weird. Imma cut some people when i find out whose been buying up all the pork 
ramen noodles though.

 

Rice never loses any nutrient or taste as long as it stays dry, honey, sugar, 
salt are the same, theres 2 other things I dont remember. beans do something 
with their protein but still last a long time. I keep 20lbs rice for each 
person in the house packed in 2 cup packages in sealed buckets. If anybody 
happens to see me toting yellow buckets really quick, id recomend running for 
the hills. Morton pool salt is a good salt to store, its washed salt so theres 
no debris, pure salt and msds foodsafe. 

 

If it hit the fan, MTOWs would be pretty versatile building components for many 
parts of the necessary trebuchets, but we wont be able to scavenge them from 
vendor warehouses since they arent there 

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Most of the shortages seem to have abated.  Still hard to find toilet paper
if you don't want the MEGA rolls (because they don't fit on your holders).

The most persistent shortage seems to be canned fruit.  I'm thinking it's
actually the cans that are in short supply, not the fruit.  Although you'd
think all the fruit would be canned in late summer or fall and then
warehoused.

Supposedly white rice and dried beans are good basically forever, no matter
what the expiration date may say.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 4:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

2020 has been the preppers dream, bad enough for justification, not bad
enough for actual desperation...

On 10/09/2020 01:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:
> Many are.
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:28 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> So basically preppers?
> 
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:*ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 2:53 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> 12 month...
> 
> *From:*Ken Hohhof
> 
> *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 1:14 PM
> 
> *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> Chuck probably figures we keep the standard LDS 3 month supply in our 
> pantry.
> 
> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, October 9, 2020 1:54 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
> I totally agree, the drop shipping thing drives me nuts.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:30 PM can...@believewireless.net 
> <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>  
> <p...@believewireless.net <mailto:p...@believewireless.net> > wrote:
> 
>     If distributors won't stock your product, why keep them around? If
>     you are drop shipping everything, then why not just
> 
>     sell direct and get rid of distributors? What value are they adding
>     to your business other than an easy way for customers
> 
>     to order your product?
> 
>     I'd order from you directly if it was the only way to get your
products.
> 
>     On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:52 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
> > wrote:
> 
>         Not entirely their fault, some of them do stock.  We did have a
>         gap in production of a few weeks a while back but nothing a bit
>         of safety stock would not cure.
> 
>         I offer them all virtual warehouse space at zero cost.  They can
>         stock it here and drop ship from here.  But still, cash must be
>         too tight for them to do that.
> 
>         *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
>         *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:30 AM
> 
>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> 
>         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
>         *sigh* daily struggle
> 
>         Josh Luthman
>         24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>         Direct: 937-552-2343
>         1100 Wayne St
>         Suite 1337
>         Troy, OH 45373
> 
>         On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:
> 
>             Only thing wrong is distributors do not like to tie up cash
>             in inventory.
> 
>             *From:*Josh Luthman
> 
>             *Sent:*Friday, October 9, 2020 11:23 AM
> 
>             *To:*AFMUG
> 
>             *Subject:*[AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24
> 
>             Streakwave nor CTI seem to have any source for them.  Does
>             any secondary distributor have some?
> 
>             Something wrong at the factory Chuck?
> 
>             Josh Luthman
>             24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>             Direct: 937-552-2343
>             1100 Wayne St
>             Suite 1337
>             Troy, OH 45373
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